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Outside In explores how consumers are changing and how companies are changing with them. Host Charles Trevail interviews executives, journalists, authors, and thinkers, exploring the customer-centric strategies and philosophies that are working successfully inside companies, and the consumer trends, industry disruptions, and cultural forces that are influencing business from the outside.

Latest Episodes

Americus Reed II: Brands and Identity Loyalty

An identity theorist is someone who studies how people come to adopt certain visions or desired images of themselves. It’s a term created by Americus Reed II, Professor of Marketing at the Wharton School of Business. Branding and marketing are fundamentally about persuasion, he says, but both can have implications beyond traditional tactics and thinking. Reed joins the podcast to talk about “identity loyalty” -- how a person’s psychological and emotional connection to what a brand means and stands for gets internalized and becomes a part of who they are. Listen to this podcast episode to learn: • The upside for brands that are willing to take a leap of faith and relinquish control • Why “segmentation” and “targeting” aren’t bad things, it just depends on how marketers treat them • Was Milton Friedman wrong? Or has our moral imperative changed? • How innovation can be part of a brand’s story and identity • How to use branding as a meaning system inside a company, to create employee buy-in and strengthen culture • Amid politicization of brands and business, when (and should) brands take a stand? • Why consumers are demanding a new skill set in the C-suite: authentic communication of vision and values For more information: americusreed.com

20 MIN2 days ago
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Americus Reed II: Brands and Identity Loyalty

Jeremy Schwartz: Lead with a Clear Purpose

These days, it seems like most companies are talking about their “purpose.’ Those that aren’t are searching for one. But how does purpose get defined? Who defines it? And how can a company make sure its purpose isn’t just “words on a wall”? Jeremy Schwartz has some thoughts on the matter. He’s the former CEO at The Body Shop and the former joint CEO at Pandora. He’s also held leadership roles at Coca-Cola, Sainsbury’s, and L'Oréal UK. Schwartz visits the podcast to share his perspective on how, when properly crafted around customers, purpose provides a reference point that can springboard new ideas and innovation. He says companies should ditch hollow “mission,” “values,” and “vision” statements and instead replace them with a clear, timeless, and actionable purpose. Listen to this podcast episode to learn: • Why creating a purpose takes guts, courage, and, above all, the willingness to listen to – and learn from – customers • What all companies (especially FMCGs...

20 MIN1 weeks ago
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Jeremy Schwartz: Lead with a Clear Purpose

Rita McGrath: Inflection Spotting

Any company can detect early warning signs of a looming inflection point. They just need to know where to look and when to act. So says Columbia Business School professor and author Rita McGrath. She returns to the podcast for a discussion about her new book, Seeing Around Corners – giving advice on how to spot inflection points early, decide what to do, and get an organization on board. She shares stories of how companies like Nike, Netflix, and Microsoft have all taken advantage of inflection points, and common barriers to spotting them. Listen to this podcast episode to learn: • What is an inflection point? • Advice for business leaders on how to position yourself at the “edges” of your organization • How inflection points make the “taken-for-granted assumptions about a business irrelevant” • The three inflection points that propelled Netflix to success -- and the fourth one on the horizon • How Satya Nadella transformed Microsoft’s future by rethinking its “leading i...

26 MIN2 weeks ago
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Rita McGrath: Inflection Spotting

Sallie Krawcheck, Ellevest: Wall Street has Failed Women

Money isn’t “male.” But men certainly have more of it. Without enough money to live independently and fund their retirement, it’s women who will suffer. After spending more than 20 years as one of Wall Street’s top executives, Sallie Krawcheck is now on a mission to put more money in the hands — and retirement accounts — of women. She’s CEO and co-founder of Ellevest, a digital investing platform for women. Krawcheck joins the podcast for a frank discussion about how the financial industry has failed women, and what she and her diverse team at Ellevest are doing differently to close the gender investment gap and empower “Elles” everywhere. Listen to this episode to learn: • Why the retirement savings crisis in America is a women’s crisis • What financial companies get wrong about female investors • Why it’s not about marketing existing investment products to women, it’s about designing better ones for them • That despite concrete economic benefits, gender diversity ...

26 MIN3 weeks ago
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Sallie Krawcheck, Ellevest: Wall Street has Failed Women

Tom Siebel: What Exactly is Digital Transformation?

In the corporate world, it’s evolve or die. Since 2000, 52% of Fortune 500 companies have either been acquired, merged, or gone bankrupt. Tom Siebel believes digital transformation is to the corporate world what a “mass extinction event” is to the evolution of life on Earth. That’s the thesis the tech industry icon and CEO of C3.ai lays out in his new book, Digital Transformation: Survive and Thrive in an Era of Mass Extinction. Siebel’s aim is to create a common understanding of digital transformation -- what it is and how organizations can take advantage of it. He joins the podcast to discuss how the application of a new generation of information technology -- comprised of elastic cloud computing, big data, the Internet of Things, and artificial intelligence -- will completely change business as we know it. Listen to this podcast episode to learn: • How “punctuated equilibrium” explains today’s massive disruption and change in how businesses operate, create and deliver products to customers • The one thing that all successful digital transformation initiatives have in common • How organizations like 3M, Amazon, and the U.S. Air Force are successfully transforming • Why precision medicine will revolutionize healthcare but also open up major privacy and security concerns • The consumer and citizen benefits -- and dangers -- of our digital era • Common reasons why CEOs fail or succeed at transforming their company • Tom’s advice on leadership and how to create a culture that unites and inspires a diverse and multigenerational workforce For more information on Tom Siebel's new book: digitaltransformation.ai

20 MINJUL 18
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Tom Siebel: What Exactly is Digital Transformation?

Matt Wallaert: To Change Behavior, ‘Start at the End’

Matt Wallaert believes “behavioral science can change the world.” In his new book, Start at the End, he argues that too many business leaders approach change by asking the wrong question: “What are we going to do?” The right question is, “What do we want to happen?” and then how do you build backwards towards that behavior change? Wallaert is a behavioral scientist, author, speaker, entrepreneur, and Chief Behavioral Officer at Clover Health. He joins the podcast to talk about why companies need to put behavior at the center of everything they do. Listen to this podcast episode to learn: • Why advertising and marketing should focus on behavior change rather than just attention and presentation • What M&Ms vs. Snickers can teach us about “promoting pressures” and “inhibiting pressures” on human behavior • Why market research needs to be forward looking and, possibly, split into two primary functions • The value of a behavioral statement and why companies should articulate one • Why every company needs (but likely doesn’t have) a Chief Behavioral Officer • More from Wallaert’s book about his process for creating behavioral change Fore more information: mattwallaert.com

27 MINJUN 19
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Matt Wallaert: To Change Behavior, ‘Start at the End’

Kate Tellers, The Moth: Principles of Great Storytelling

Stories are the great unifier. When told well, they create a powerful connection to the human experience. No organization knows this better than The Moth. Since 1997, the nonprofit has shared more than 30,000 true personal stories in front of live audiences around the world. The Peabody Award-winning Moth Radio Hour airs on more than 500 public radio stations, and The Moth Podcast is one of the world’s most listened-to podcasts. There’s even three critically acclaimed Moth books, the most recent of which debuted at #12 on The New York Times bestsellers list. Kate Tellers is a master storyteller, host, and director of MothWorks at The Moth, a program that’s worked with companies like Google, Nike, and Ford to teach employees and executives how, through personal stories, they can communicate better, celebrate shared values, and connect with each other. Tellers joins the podcast to talk about the principles of Moth storytelling and why a great story can make us understand ourselves and empathize with others. Listen to this episode to learn: • The origin of The Moth and how this female-led organization has become such a beloved platform for storytelling • Why vulnerability, authenticity, and transformation are the essential elements in a powerful story • Why “specificity breeds universality” and other practical tips you can use to craft your next story • Avoiding “And then, and then, and then…” and other storytelling don’ts • How leaders like Melinda Gates and Al Gore effectively use stories to create change • False vulnerability, misleading your audience, and whether we can avoid the “dark side” of storytelling For more information: themoth.org Follow MothWorks on Instagram: instagram.com/mothworks97/ Photo by Jason Falchook

24 MINJUN 11
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Kate Tellers, The Moth: Principles of Great Storytelling

Peter Fader: Customer Centricity is Not About “The” Customer

Wharton School Professor of Marketing Peter Fader sometimes wishes he never used the words “Customer Centricity” in his first book, Customer Centricity, and his latest, The Customer Centricity Playbook. Because, to him, it’s not about THE customer, or even all customers. Rather, it’s about using data to figure out who are your most valuable customers. Those are the ones to center around. Fader joins the podcast for a discussion about the quantitative (or math) side of customer centricity and why we should all be celebrating “customer heterogeneity.” Listen to this episode to learn: • Why CMOs should be thinking like CFOs and embrace customer-based corporate valuation and customer lifetime value (CLTV) • The actuarial science of predicting customer behavior and “buy till you die” models • Why many companies are paralyzed with fear that they might suffer a viral customer service mishap and become the next “United Breaks Guitars” • How the valuations of IPOs like Lyft, Slack, Blue Apron, and Uber look different when you filter them through the customer lens • The one piece of advice Fader would give to marketers and executives For more information: petefader.com

23 MINMAY 31
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Peter Fader: Customer Centricity is Not About “The” Customer

Jonah Berger: Social Influence and Word of Mouth

How does anything become popular? And what are the influences that dictate our decisions – whether we’re conscious of it or not? Wharton School Professor Jonah Berger is a world-renowned expert on social influence, consumer behavior, and why things spread or go viral. He’s also written two bestselling books: Contagious: Why Things Catch On and Invisible Influence: The Hidden Forces that Shape Behavior. Berger joins the podcast to explain why, at its core, word of mouth marketing is about understanding your audience’s needs and motivations. While you “can’t cheat the system” with word of mouth, you can create it and get people sharing and talking about your stuff. Listen to this episode to learn: • Why social currency makes people feel like insiders • The impact of word of mouth, and why it happens less online than you think • How triggers like “peanut butter and…” or the Snickers “Hangry” ad campaign can serve as reminders for brands and products • How emotions (both...

21 MINMAY 21
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Jonah Berger: Social Influence and Word of Mouth

Gary Pisano, Harvard Business School: Can Big Companies Really Be Innovative?

Innovation. It’s the most overused buzzword in business. It’s also a catalyst for growth. But is it possible for big companies to be truly innovative? Or are they destined for creative destruction? Gary Pisano, Professor and Senior Associate Dean at Harvard Business School, has spent his career studying and working with innovative companies. His book, Creative Construction: The DNA of Sustained Innovation, unpacks the three pillars of innovation: strategy, systems, and culture. He joins the podcast to bust the myth that “big is ugly” when it comes to innovation. And he explains how even the biggest companies can be designed and led in ways that turn them into forces of transformative innovation. Listen to this episode to learn: • The unique challenges larger companies face when it comes to innovation • Why culture is the “software of the organization” that drives innovation • The importance of “absorptive capacity” and the influence of the outside world on innovative orga...

22 MINMAY 15
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Gary Pisano, Harvard Business School: Can Big Companies Really Be Innovative?

Latest Episodes

Americus Reed II: Brands and Identity Loyalty

An identity theorist is someone who studies how people come to adopt certain visions or desired images of themselves. It’s a term created by Americus Reed II, Professor of Marketing at the Wharton School of Business. Branding and marketing are fundamentally about persuasion, he says, but both can have implications beyond traditional tactics and thinking. Reed joins the podcast to talk about “identity loyalty” -- how a person’s psychological and emotional connection to what a brand means and stands for gets internalized and becomes a part of who they are. Listen to this podcast episode to learn: • The upside for brands that are willing to take a leap of faith and relinquish control • Why “segmentation” and “targeting” aren’t bad things, it just depends on how marketers treat them • Was Milton Friedman wrong? Or has our moral imperative changed? • How innovation can be part of a brand’s story and identity • How to use branding as a meaning system inside a company, to create employee buy-in and strengthen culture • Amid politicization of brands and business, when (and should) brands take a stand? • Why consumers are demanding a new skill set in the C-suite: authentic communication of vision and values For more information: americusreed.com

20 MIN2 days ago
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Americus Reed II: Brands and Identity Loyalty

Jeremy Schwartz: Lead with a Clear Purpose

These days, it seems like most companies are talking about their “purpose.’ Those that aren’t are searching for one. But how does purpose get defined? Who defines it? And how can a company make sure its purpose isn’t just “words on a wall”? Jeremy Schwartz has some thoughts on the matter. He’s the former CEO at The Body Shop and the former joint CEO at Pandora. He’s also held leadership roles at Coca-Cola, Sainsbury’s, and L'Oréal UK. Schwartz visits the podcast to share his perspective on how, when properly crafted around customers, purpose provides a reference point that can springboard new ideas and innovation. He says companies should ditch hollow “mission,” “values,” and “vision” statements and instead replace them with a clear, timeless, and actionable purpose. Listen to this podcast episode to learn: • Why creating a purpose takes guts, courage, and, above all, the willingness to listen to – and learn from – customers • What all companies (especially FMCGs...

20 MIN1 weeks ago
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Jeremy Schwartz: Lead with a Clear Purpose

Rita McGrath: Inflection Spotting

Any company can detect early warning signs of a looming inflection point. They just need to know where to look and when to act. So says Columbia Business School professor and author Rita McGrath. She returns to the podcast for a discussion about her new book, Seeing Around Corners – giving advice on how to spot inflection points early, decide what to do, and get an organization on board. She shares stories of how companies like Nike, Netflix, and Microsoft have all taken advantage of inflection points, and common barriers to spotting them. Listen to this podcast episode to learn: • What is an inflection point? • Advice for business leaders on how to position yourself at the “edges” of your organization • How inflection points make the “taken-for-granted assumptions about a business irrelevant” • The three inflection points that propelled Netflix to success -- and the fourth one on the horizon • How Satya Nadella transformed Microsoft’s future by rethinking its “leading i...

26 MIN2 weeks ago
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Rita McGrath: Inflection Spotting

Sallie Krawcheck, Ellevest: Wall Street has Failed Women

Money isn’t “male.” But men certainly have more of it. Without enough money to live independently and fund their retirement, it’s women who will suffer. After spending more than 20 years as one of Wall Street’s top executives, Sallie Krawcheck is now on a mission to put more money in the hands — and retirement accounts — of women. She’s CEO and co-founder of Ellevest, a digital investing platform for women. Krawcheck joins the podcast for a frank discussion about how the financial industry has failed women, and what she and her diverse team at Ellevest are doing differently to close the gender investment gap and empower “Elles” everywhere. Listen to this episode to learn: • Why the retirement savings crisis in America is a women’s crisis • What financial companies get wrong about female investors • Why it’s not about marketing existing investment products to women, it’s about designing better ones for them • That despite concrete economic benefits, gender diversity ...

26 MIN3 weeks ago
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Sallie Krawcheck, Ellevest: Wall Street has Failed Women

Tom Siebel: What Exactly is Digital Transformation?

In the corporate world, it’s evolve or die. Since 2000, 52% of Fortune 500 companies have either been acquired, merged, or gone bankrupt. Tom Siebel believes digital transformation is to the corporate world what a “mass extinction event” is to the evolution of life on Earth. That’s the thesis the tech industry icon and CEO of C3.ai lays out in his new book, Digital Transformation: Survive and Thrive in an Era of Mass Extinction. Siebel’s aim is to create a common understanding of digital transformation -- what it is and how organizations can take advantage of it. He joins the podcast to discuss how the application of a new generation of information technology -- comprised of elastic cloud computing, big data, the Internet of Things, and artificial intelligence -- will completely change business as we know it. Listen to this podcast episode to learn: • How “punctuated equilibrium” explains today’s massive disruption and change in how businesses operate, create and deliver products to customers • The one thing that all successful digital transformation initiatives have in common • How organizations like 3M, Amazon, and the U.S. Air Force are successfully transforming • Why precision medicine will revolutionize healthcare but also open up major privacy and security concerns • The consumer and citizen benefits -- and dangers -- of our digital era • Common reasons why CEOs fail or succeed at transforming their company • Tom’s advice on leadership and how to create a culture that unites and inspires a diverse and multigenerational workforce For more information on Tom Siebel's new book: digitaltransformation.ai

20 MINJUL 18
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Tom Siebel: What Exactly is Digital Transformation?

Matt Wallaert: To Change Behavior, ‘Start at the End’

Matt Wallaert believes “behavioral science can change the world.” In his new book, Start at the End, he argues that too many business leaders approach change by asking the wrong question: “What are we going to do?” The right question is, “What do we want to happen?” and then how do you build backwards towards that behavior change? Wallaert is a behavioral scientist, author, speaker, entrepreneur, and Chief Behavioral Officer at Clover Health. He joins the podcast to talk about why companies need to put behavior at the center of everything they do. Listen to this podcast episode to learn: • Why advertising and marketing should focus on behavior change rather than just attention and presentation • What M&Ms vs. Snickers can teach us about “promoting pressures” and “inhibiting pressures” on human behavior • Why market research needs to be forward looking and, possibly, split into two primary functions • The value of a behavioral statement and why companies should articulate one • Why every company needs (but likely doesn’t have) a Chief Behavioral Officer • More from Wallaert’s book about his process for creating behavioral change Fore more information: mattwallaert.com

27 MINJUN 19
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Matt Wallaert: To Change Behavior, ‘Start at the End’

Kate Tellers, The Moth: Principles of Great Storytelling

Stories are the great unifier. When told well, they create a powerful connection to the human experience. No organization knows this better than The Moth. Since 1997, the nonprofit has shared more than 30,000 true personal stories in front of live audiences around the world. The Peabody Award-winning Moth Radio Hour airs on more than 500 public radio stations, and The Moth Podcast is one of the world’s most listened-to podcasts. There’s even three critically acclaimed Moth books, the most recent of which debuted at #12 on The New York Times bestsellers list. Kate Tellers is a master storyteller, host, and director of MothWorks at The Moth, a program that’s worked with companies like Google, Nike, and Ford to teach employees and executives how, through personal stories, they can communicate better, celebrate shared values, and connect with each other. Tellers joins the podcast to talk about the principles of Moth storytelling and why a great story can make us understand ourselves and empathize with others. Listen to this episode to learn: • The origin of The Moth and how this female-led organization has become such a beloved platform for storytelling • Why vulnerability, authenticity, and transformation are the essential elements in a powerful story • Why “specificity breeds universality” and other practical tips you can use to craft your next story • Avoiding “And then, and then, and then…” and other storytelling don’ts • How leaders like Melinda Gates and Al Gore effectively use stories to create change • False vulnerability, misleading your audience, and whether we can avoid the “dark side” of storytelling For more information: themoth.org Follow MothWorks on Instagram: instagram.com/mothworks97/ Photo by Jason Falchook

24 MINJUN 11
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Kate Tellers, The Moth: Principles of Great Storytelling

Peter Fader: Customer Centricity is Not About “The” Customer

Wharton School Professor of Marketing Peter Fader sometimes wishes he never used the words “Customer Centricity” in his first book, Customer Centricity, and his latest, The Customer Centricity Playbook. Because, to him, it’s not about THE customer, or even all customers. Rather, it’s about using data to figure out who are your most valuable customers. Those are the ones to center around. Fader joins the podcast for a discussion about the quantitative (or math) side of customer centricity and why we should all be celebrating “customer heterogeneity.” Listen to this episode to learn: • Why CMOs should be thinking like CFOs and embrace customer-based corporate valuation and customer lifetime value (CLTV) • The actuarial science of predicting customer behavior and “buy till you die” models • Why many companies are paralyzed with fear that they might suffer a viral customer service mishap and become the next “United Breaks Guitars” • How the valuations of IPOs like Lyft, Slack, Blue Apron, and Uber look different when you filter them through the customer lens • The one piece of advice Fader would give to marketers and executives For more information: petefader.com

23 MINMAY 31
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Peter Fader: Customer Centricity is Not About “The” Customer

Jonah Berger: Social Influence and Word of Mouth

How does anything become popular? And what are the influences that dictate our decisions – whether we’re conscious of it or not? Wharton School Professor Jonah Berger is a world-renowned expert on social influence, consumer behavior, and why things spread or go viral. He’s also written two bestselling books: Contagious: Why Things Catch On and Invisible Influence: The Hidden Forces that Shape Behavior. Berger joins the podcast to explain why, at its core, word of mouth marketing is about understanding your audience’s needs and motivations. While you “can’t cheat the system” with word of mouth, you can create it and get people sharing and talking about your stuff. Listen to this episode to learn: • Why social currency makes people feel like insiders • The impact of word of mouth, and why it happens less online than you think • How triggers like “peanut butter and…” or the Snickers “Hangry” ad campaign can serve as reminders for brands and products • How emotions (both...

21 MINMAY 21
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Jonah Berger: Social Influence and Word of Mouth

Gary Pisano, Harvard Business School: Can Big Companies Really Be Innovative?

Innovation. It’s the most overused buzzword in business. It’s also a catalyst for growth. But is it possible for big companies to be truly innovative? Or are they destined for creative destruction? Gary Pisano, Professor and Senior Associate Dean at Harvard Business School, has spent his career studying and working with innovative companies. His book, Creative Construction: The DNA of Sustained Innovation, unpacks the three pillars of innovation: strategy, systems, and culture. He joins the podcast to bust the myth that “big is ugly” when it comes to innovation. And he explains how even the biggest companies can be designed and led in ways that turn them into forces of transformative innovation. Listen to this episode to learn: • The unique challenges larger companies face when it comes to innovation • Why culture is the “software of the organization” that drives innovation • The importance of “absorptive capacity” and the influence of the outside world on innovative orga...

22 MINMAY 15
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Gary Pisano, Harvard Business School: Can Big Companies Really Be Innovative?