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Dr Ray Downing MD is a latter day Pioneer in global health through his lifetime career of medical work in Africa. In addition to being working doctor he has contributed to the theory and thinking, and conversation about Global health by his teaching and numerous publications. His most recent book is Such a Time of It They Had - Global Health Pioneers in Africa. And here the audio version of that book begins with this program. it is a unique experiment in bringing the book to the world through a weekly program of informative podcasts and calls for conversation . Dr Raymond also believes that Global Health Means Listening. View his website at https://globalhealth757.wordpress.com. Contact him at raymondvdowning@gmail.com. The RSS feed for this podcast is http://suchatime.libsyn.com/rss

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Such a Time of It They Had - Episode 1 Introduction

This is the beginning of a new adventure and an incredible story..Dr. Raymond Downing, one of the deep thinkers about, and a working doctor in the field, has written extensively about the state of global health. Now we get the story. The book,Such a Time of It They Had - Global Health Pioneers in Africa has just been published. The book is available at all of the usual places and sources. But now in a new experiment, we present the audio version not in an expensive audio setting, but in a a weekly podcast. I will be the announcer/narrator and sharing the story with you, and Dr. Downing himself will also be sharing his own personal narratives within each episode and chapter. We look forward to hearing from you as we learn from you, and seek every week as we go chapter by chapter, to provide an experience of both story, inspiration, and personal reflection. And here is the introduction by Dr. Raymond himself Stan Hustad

20 MIN2018 JUL 4
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Such a Time of It They Had - Episode 1 Introduction

Such a Time of It They Had - Chapter 1 Mingling With Savages

Ch 1 Mingling with Savages It is a gift to be simple, and Dr Johannes van der Kemp had that gift. Maybe it was because he was over 50 when he started his global health career. Maybe it was the tragedy in his own life. Maybe it was that the medicine of his day had so little to offer. Whatever the reason, he was not ashamed of his true simplicity - “to bow and bend” - and that bowing and bending gave him a chance to live in solidarity with the people he came to serve. Or at least try to. Not many of his contemporaries respected what he was doing, and the legacy of his simplicity and solidarity was… well there is no legacy. Still, I invite you to at least hear the story of Dr. van der Kemp, the man who mingled with savages.

32 MIN2018 JUL 9
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Such a Time of It They Had - Chapter 1 Mingling With Savages

Such a Time of It They Had - Chapter 2 Inauspicious Global Health Ventures

Ch 2 Inauspicious Global Health Ventures... Dr Mungo Park was a Romantic surgeon from Scotland, passionate to explore the Niger River, the one that flows past the fabled city of Timbuctu. Dr Joseph Ritchie was a Romantic surgeon from England, who wanted to explore the same river, approaching it from the north - that is, across the Sahara Desert. In the process, both lost - or perhaps ignored - their first calling: to care for those who were ill, to at least bring them comfort if they could not cure them. In those days, there was very little romantic about the surgery of the day: it had separated itself from barbers only one generation earlier. But exploring was very romantic - and so was dying young. Both died young without ever finding out where the Niger River went, and without contributing anything to the global health of their day. These were early global health ventures, inauspicious beginnings to the profession. Lord have mercy. Send me your reactions at raymondvdowning@gmail....

33 MIN2018 JUL 13
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Such a Time of It They Had - Chapter 2 Inauspicious Global Health Ventures

Chapter 3 ... And an Auspicious Invention - Such a Time of It They Had

Episode 4 - Ch 3 … And an Auspicious Invention When I was growing up, we knew of Dr David Livingstone as one of the most famous African explorers. The same apparently was true in my father’s day: as a 12 year old child he read of Livingstone in a book called Missionary Heroes in Africa, dated February 14, 1928. We all knew how Henry Morton Stanley supposedly “found” the lost Livingstone in eastern Africa, greeting him with the words “Dr Livingstone I presume.” We also heard the tales of how, when he died while exploring, his African friends buried his heart in Africa, and carried his body back to England. But one of the keys to understanding any global health worker is knowing where they came from. Livingstone was Scottish. He was part of a tradition: Scotland produced a disproportionately large number of explorers; we have already met Mungo Park. And Scotland boasted one of Europe’s premier medical schools in Edinburgh. Livingstone didn’t go there, but van der Kemp did - an...

32 MIN2018 JUL 21
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Chapter 3 ... And an Auspicious Invention - Such a Time of It They Had

Episode 5 - Chapter 4 - Trials and Errors

Ch 4 Trials and Errors My wife Jan’s father, J. Dale Armstrong, was a third generation American Scot; his father was a blacksmith in southern Illinois. When Jan read the stories about Livingstone, she immediately recognized her father: determined, stubborn, tight-fisted. A few of the stories she told me about him are as painful as some of what we hear here about Livingstone. Livingstone was clearly no fun to live with. But ironically he seemed to understand and relate well with African friends: remember his conversation with the rain-maker. And, whether we now decry or laud his efforts, he prepared the way for many more European missionaries and settlers to enter Africa. He was an enigma - and some of the confusion begins to clear when we remember what his culture was and where he came from. Send me your reactions at raymondvdowning@gmail.com. Visit my website at https://globalhealth757.wordpress.com/ .

25 MIN2018 JUL 28
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Episode 5 - Chapter 4 - Trials and Errors

Such a Time of It They Had - Episode 6 Chapter 5 The Not-So-Great Playmaker

Ch 5 The Not-So-Great Playmaker The Helmores and the Prices were two young missionary families who became victims of one of Livingstone’s grandiose plans that went badly wrong. There were no medical workers in these young families, but their stories illustrate clearly one of the first tasks global health workers faced in Africa: preventing the high mortality of missionaries, explorers, and eventually colonists. Despite the difficulties and setbacks of their task, members of these two families preserved a careful record of their final journey in diaries and letters. Their own words show us people who, though not immune to frustration, demonstrated nobility - the kind that has nothing to do with class. Send me your reactions at raymondvdowning@gmail.com. Visit my website at https://globalhealth757.wordpress.com/ .

33 MIN2018 AUG 4
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Such a Time of It They Had - Episode 6 Chapter 5 The Not-So-Great Playmaker

Such a Time Of it They Had - Chapter 6 - Controlling All The Variables Global Health Pioneers in Africa by Raymond Downing

In the pre-colonial and colonial periods, the British conducted their war against disease in the same way they conducted their conventional wars: conventionally. Doing things orderly, the right way. Fully believing their way - in fact their civilization - was the only right way. And, when it came to fighting both enemies and disease, the British relied on the latest science of the day, employed by doctors and engineers. They identified all the variables they knew about, and tried to control each one.

25 MIN2018 AUG 10
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Such a Time Of it They Had - Chapter 6 - Controlling All The Variables Global Health Pioneers in Africa by Raymond Downing

Such a Time of It They Had - Episode 8 - Chapter 7 - The Lot of Women and Slaves Global Health Pioneers in Africa by Raymond Downing MD

Today, global health workers I meet in conferences and in the field are mostly women. But this was not true of our global health pioneers. Jane Elizabeth Waterston stepped into this almost exclusively male endeavor, determined to challenge Gilbert and Sullivan’s satirical stereotype of a little maid from school. But before long she discovered some problems far deeper than gender stereotypes. She discovered what global health workers still discover that we all have trouble getting along with each other.

34 MIN2018 AUG 16
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Such a Time of It They Had - Episode 8 - Chapter 7 - The Lot of Women and Slaves Global Health Pioneers in Africa by Raymond Downing MD

Such a Time of It They Had Episode 9 Chapter 8 - Who 'Among You is Human? Global Health Pioneers in Africa by Raymond Downing MD

In the late 1880s, several explorers followed Henry Morton Stanley up the Congo River to rescue Emin Pasha. These explorers returned from a disastrous journey. Two thirds of their 1000 African porters deserted or died, most of the deaths from starvation. Were any survivors requesting the Strauss Waltz, with the Cries of from Hell? They had experienced hell, a hell of their own making, in the Congo. And yet, in this imperial heart of darkness, it was a pygmy who reminded us all of what it means to be human

37 MIN2018 AUG 23
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Such a Time of It They Had Episode 9 Chapter 8 - Who 'Among You is Human? Global Health Pioneers in Africa by Raymond Downing MD

Such a Time of It they Had - Episode 10 Chapter 9 - Straddling The Centuries

Dr. Robert Moffat, our next global health worker, feels contemporary even though he worked in East Africa at the turn of the previous century. His parents were Scottish missionaries in South Africa; he went to Medical School in England; his first assignment was in colonial Kenya, then Uganda - and by the time he was 40, it was time to go home. But where was home? He tried Britain, Rhodesia, Brazil, and France - but none of these were home. He ended up in his 80's decade, on his brother’s farm in Rhodesia.

24 MIN2018 AUG 31
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Such a Time of It they Had - Episode 10 Chapter 9 - Straddling The Centuries

Latest Episodes

Such a Time of It They Had - Episode 1 Introduction

This is the beginning of a new adventure and an incredible story..Dr. Raymond Downing, one of the deep thinkers about, and a working doctor in the field, has written extensively about the state of global health. Now we get the story. The book,Such a Time of It They Had - Global Health Pioneers in Africa has just been published. The book is available at all of the usual places and sources. But now in a new experiment, we present the audio version not in an expensive audio setting, but in a a weekly podcast. I will be the announcer/narrator and sharing the story with you, and Dr. Downing himself will also be sharing his own personal narratives within each episode and chapter. We look forward to hearing from you as we learn from you, and seek every week as we go chapter by chapter, to provide an experience of both story, inspiration, and personal reflection. And here is the introduction by Dr. Raymond himself Stan Hustad

20 MIN2018 JUL 4
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Such a Time of It They Had - Episode 1 Introduction

Such a Time of It They Had - Chapter 1 Mingling With Savages

Ch 1 Mingling with Savages It is a gift to be simple, and Dr Johannes van der Kemp had that gift. Maybe it was because he was over 50 when he started his global health career. Maybe it was the tragedy in his own life. Maybe it was that the medicine of his day had so little to offer. Whatever the reason, he was not ashamed of his true simplicity - “to bow and bend” - and that bowing and bending gave him a chance to live in solidarity with the people he came to serve. Or at least try to. Not many of his contemporaries respected what he was doing, and the legacy of his simplicity and solidarity was… well there is no legacy. Still, I invite you to at least hear the story of Dr. van der Kemp, the man who mingled with savages.

32 MIN2018 JUL 9
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Such a Time of It They Had - Chapter 1 Mingling With Savages

Such a Time of It They Had - Chapter 2 Inauspicious Global Health Ventures

Ch 2 Inauspicious Global Health Ventures... Dr Mungo Park was a Romantic surgeon from Scotland, passionate to explore the Niger River, the one that flows past the fabled city of Timbuctu. Dr Joseph Ritchie was a Romantic surgeon from England, who wanted to explore the same river, approaching it from the north - that is, across the Sahara Desert. In the process, both lost - or perhaps ignored - their first calling: to care for those who were ill, to at least bring them comfort if they could not cure them. In those days, there was very little romantic about the surgery of the day: it had separated itself from barbers only one generation earlier. But exploring was very romantic - and so was dying young. Both died young without ever finding out where the Niger River went, and without contributing anything to the global health of their day. These were early global health ventures, inauspicious beginnings to the profession. Lord have mercy. Send me your reactions at raymondvdowning@gmail....

33 MIN2018 JUL 13
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Such a Time of It They Had - Chapter 2 Inauspicious Global Health Ventures

Chapter 3 ... And an Auspicious Invention - Such a Time of It They Had

Episode 4 - Ch 3 … And an Auspicious Invention When I was growing up, we knew of Dr David Livingstone as one of the most famous African explorers. The same apparently was true in my father’s day: as a 12 year old child he read of Livingstone in a book called Missionary Heroes in Africa, dated February 14, 1928. We all knew how Henry Morton Stanley supposedly “found” the lost Livingstone in eastern Africa, greeting him with the words “Dr Livingstone I presume.” We also heard the tales of how, when he died while exploring, his African friends buried his heart in Africa, and carried his body back to England. But one of the keys to understanding any global health worker is knowing where they came from. Livingstone was Scottish. He was part of a tradition: Scotland produced a disproportionately large number of explorers; we have already met Mungo Park. And Scotland boasted one of Europe’s premier medical schools in Edinburgh. Livingstone didn’t go there, but van der Kemp did - an...

32 MIN2018 JUL 21
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Chapter 3 ... And an Auspicious Invention - Such a Time of It They Had

Episode 5 - Chapter 4 - Trials and Errors

Ch 4 Trials and Errors My wife Jan’s father, J. Dale Armstrong, was a third generation American Scot; his father was a blacksmith in southern Illinois. When Jan read the stories about Livingstone, she immediately recognized her father: determined, stubborn, tight-fisted. A few of the stories she told me about him are as painful as some of what we hear here about Livingstone. Livingstone was clearly no fun to live with. But ironically he seemed to understand and relate well with African friends: remember his conversation with the rain-maker. And, whether we now decry or laud his efforts, he prepared the way for many more European missionaries and settlers to enter Africa. He was an enigma - and some of the confusion begins to clear when we remember what his culture was and where he came from. Send me your reactions at raymondvdowning@gmail.com. Visit my website at https://globalhealth757.wordpress.com/ .

25 MIN2018 JUL 28
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Episode 5 - Chapter 4 - Trials and Errors

Such a Time of It They Had - Episode 6 Chapter 5 The Not-So-Great Playmaker

Ch 5 The Not-So-Great Playmaker The Helmores and the Prices were two young missionary families who became victims of one of Livingstone’s grandiose plans that went badly wrong. There were no medical workers in these young families, but their stories illustrate clearly one of the first tasks global health workers faced in Africa: preventing the high mortality of missionaries, explorers, and eventually colonists. Despite the difficulties and setbacks of their task, members of these two families preserved a careful record of their final journey in diaries and letters. Their own words show us people who, though not immune to frustration, demonstrated nobility - the kind that has nothing to do with class. Send me your reactions at raymondvdowning@gmail.com. Visit my website at https://globalhealth757.wordpress.com/ .

33 MIN2018 AUG 4
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Such a Time of It They Had - Episode 6 Chapter 5 The Not-So-Great Playmaker

Such a Time Of it They Had - Chapter 6 - Controlling All The Variables Global Health Pioneers in Africa by Raymond Downing

In the pre-colonial and colonial periods, the British conducted their war against disease in the same way they conducted their conventional wars: conventionally. Doing things orderly, the right way. Fully believing their way - in fact their civilization - was the only right way. And, when it came to fighting both enemies and disease, the British relied on the latest science of the day, employed by doctors and engineers. They identified all the variables they knew about, and tried to control each one.

25 MIN2018 AUG 10
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Such a Time Of it They Had - Chapter 6 - Controlling All The Variables Global Health Pioneers in Africa by Raymond Downing

Such a Time of It They Had - Episode 8 - Chapter 7 - The Lot of Women and Slaves Global Health Pioneers in Africa by Raymond Downing MD

Today, global health workers I meet in conferences and in the field are mostly women. But this was not true of our global health pioneers. Jane Elizabeth Waterston stepped into this almost exclusively male endeavor, determined to challenge Gilbert and Sullivan’s satirical stereotype of a little maid from school. But before long she discovered some problems far deeper than gender stereotypes. She discovered what global health workers still discover that we all have trouble getting along with each other.

34 MIN2018 AUG 16
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Such a Time of It They Had - Episode 8 - Chapter 7 - The Lot of Women and Slaves Global Health Pioneers in Africa by Raymond Downing MD

Such a Time of It They Had Episode 9 Chapter 8 - Who 'Among You is Human? Global Health Pioneers in Africa by Raymond Downing MD

In the late 1880s, several explorers followed Henry Morton Stanley up the Congo River to rescue Emin Pasha. These explorers returned from a disastrous journey. Two thirds of their 1000 African porters deserted or died, most of the deaths from starvation. Were any survivors requesting the Strauss Waltz, with the Cries of from Hell? They had experienced hell, a hell of their own making, in the Congo. And yet, in this imperial heart of darkness, it was a pygmy who reminded us all of what it means to be human

37 MIN2018 AUG 23
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Such a Time of It They Had Episode 9 Chapter 8 - Who 'Among You is Human? Global Health Pioneers in Africa by Raymond Downing MD

Such a Time of It they Had - Episode 10 Chapter 9 - Straddling The Centuries

Dr. Robert Moffat, our next global health worker, feels contemporary even though he worked in East Africa at the turn of the previous century. His parents were Scottish missionaries in South Africa; he went to Medical School in England; his first assignment was in colonial Kenya, then Uganda - and by the time he was 40, it was time to go home. But where was home? He tried Britain, Rhodesia, Brazil, and France - but none of these were home. He ended up in his 80's decade, on his brother’s farm in Rhodesia.

24 MIN2018 AUG 31
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Such a Time of It they Had - Episode 10 Chapter 9 - Straddling The Centuries
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