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The Controversial Exchange

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The Controversial Exchange

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Ryan O'Donnell

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The tougher conversations about human behavior.

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2019 Year In Review | TCE #015

E0:01:15 Topic: Dimitri and Ryan each talk about why and how The Controversial Exchange got started 0:06:15 Topic Change: A reflection of the podcast's growing pains in 2019 0:06:15 Check out the Why We Do What We Do podcast 0:08:00 Check out episode #004 Unethical & Unprofessional Behavior Analysts with Merrill Winston 0:08:00 Check out episode #014 Is EAB Still Breathing? w/ Anita Li and Matthew Bell 0:08:40 Check out episode #005 Mental Health & Behavior Analysis w/ Tina Patterson 0:08:40 Check out episode #010 Work/Life Balance is a Damn Illusion 0:09:25 Check out episode #002 Do Behavior Analysts DESERVE to Branch Outside Autism? w/ Miranda 0:09:25 Topic Change: Next steps, goals, and changes for 2020! 0:13:20 Are you interested in discussing a big issue in the field of behavior analysis on The Controversial Exchange? Reach out to us! 0:13:20 Check out Linda Hayes' research contributions and publications 0:18:10 Topic Shift: Ryan's content goals for The Controversial Exchange and The Daily BA 0:18:10 Topic Change: Ryan and Dimitri discuss their personal gains from recording a podcast 0:26:05 Shout out to our (~1000) regular listeners - we are so lucky and grateful! 0:26:05 Topic Change: Ryan and Dimitri open up about their personal lives 0:36:28 Topic Change: The field in review - growth, continuing education, social media, shareholders, and more 0:36:28 Check out the Inside the BACB podcast 0:37:10 Check out Jim Carr's research contributions and publications 0:37:10 Check out the Association for Behavior Analysis International's (ABAI) Blog 0:41:25 Check out the Behavior Bitches Podcast 0:41:25 Check out the Confessions of a Behavior Analyst group on Facebook 0:46:40 Check out the Changes to the BACB’s International Focus 0:46:40 Check out the Association for Contextual Behavioral Science (ACBS) 0:51:55 Call to Action: Tell us what your thoughts are on 2019 and what you want to see in 2020 through our social media channels! Thank you all again! --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange/message

58 MIN1 w ago
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2019 Year In Review | TCE #015

#014 Is EAB Still Breathing? w/ Anita Li and Matthew Bell

EFull Links located at: https://thedailyba.com/tce 0:01:30 Hosts and Guests (Matt and Anita!) Introductions and Backgrounds in EAB! 0:02:25 Check out Matt's lab at SCU 0:03:10 Check out Michael Dougher's contributions and publications 0:03:57 Check out Al Poling's contributions and publications 0:04:00 Check out the journal Behavior Analysis: Research and Practice 0:04:30 Topic Change: What is EAB? 0:04:45 Question for listeners: Have you ever worked with animals? 0:07:00 For an example of Tony Nevin's publications on behavioral momentum check out The Analysis of Behavioral Momentum (1983) 0:07:00 For an example of Tony Nevin's publications on behavioral momentum check out The Momentum of Compliance (1996) 0:08:10 Topic Change: Where is EAB's current and future focus? 0:09:20 Check out the Journal of the Experimental Analysis of Behavior 0:10:20 Check out Peter Killeen's contributions and publications 0:11:47 Check out Timberlake and Allison's (1974) Response Deprivation: An Empirica...

92 MIN2019 AUG 25
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#014 Is EAB Still Breathing? w/ Anita Li and Matthew Bell

#013 Science is Supposed to be Progressive (Dogma in ABA)

E0:01:44 Introduce Merrill Winston - Check out TCE's previous episode with Merrill 0:01:47 Introduce Jim Moore - Check out The Daily BA's video The Field Didn't Change... The Profession Didn't Change... I Changed w/ Jim Moore 0:01:50 Topic: Pliance, Tracking, Rule-Governed Behavior and how this relates to Authority and Power 0:02:05 For additional reading on Pliance and Tracking check out Hayes & Wilson (1993) Some applied implications of a contemporary behavior-analytic account of verbal events 0:02:05 For additional reading on Pliance and Tracking check out Rule-governed behavior: Cognition, contingencies, and instructional control by Steven Hayes 0:02:05 For additional reading on Pliance and Tracking check out Kissi et al. (2017) A systematic review of pliance, tracking, and augmenting 0:03:15 Check out Jordan Belisle's research contributions and publications 0:08:30 Topic Change: How Pliance has affected the divide between academia and practitioners 0:09:40 Check out David Barlow...

86 MIN2019 AUG 20
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#013 Science is Supposed to be Progressive (Dogma in ABA)

#012 Behavior Analysis: A Field Behind the Times?

ELinks for Today 0:02:57 Topic: The differences between new and experienced BCBA's 0:06:02 Check out the Daily BA's video on Behavior Analysis’s Communication Problem 0:06:27 Topic Change: Everyone's role in disseminating good/bad and right/wrong information 0:12:57 Check out one of the Daily BA's videos with T. V. Joe Layng 0:13:27 Check out the Daily BA's video with Jim Moore 0:13:27 Check out TCE's episode with Merrill Winston 0:21:12 For additional reading on the comparison of the spread of disease and misinformation on social media check out "Ideas spread like disease: Let’s treat them with the same caution" published by Nick Enfield on The Guardian's website 0:24:32 Check out TCE's upcoming episode with Merrill Winston and Jim Moore 0:25:52 Check out this video interview with Joe Rogan, Peter Boghossian and James Lindsay for more information about the hoax papers project 0:29:32 Topic Change: The dark side of behavior analysis 0:29:32 Check out the trailer for The Great Hack ...

50 MIN2019 AUG 11
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#012 Behavior Analysis: A Field Behind the Times?

#011 Everybody Lies… Including Behavior Analysts! w/ Kathy Fox

ELinks for Today 0:03:07 Kathy, Ryan, and Dimitri discuss "Everybody Lies: Big Data, New Data, and What the Internet Can Tell Us About Who We Really Are" by Seth Stephens-Davidowitz 0:03:32 Check out the Ted Talk: "The Secrets in Our Google Searches" with Seth Stephens-Davidowitz 0:15:32 Check out the Convergence Conference (CHATT Con) hosted annually in Seattle 0:15:32 For some extra reading on AI and Psychotherapy check out Luis de Mello and Alves de Souza's (2019) theoretical piece "Psychotherapy and Artificial Intelligence: A Proposal for Alignment" 0:19:57 Topic Change: The importance of our privacy vs. our free access to social media 0:27:02 Check out Marques Brownlee on Youtube 0:29:22 Topic Change: Could big data lead to the extinction of behavior analysts? 0:29:57 Check out Koenig's (1971) summary of Ogden Lindsley's Behavior Bank - "The Behavior Bank: A System for Sharing Precise Information" 0:30:12 Mentioned: Skinner's article in Time Magazine (1971) - "We Can't Afford Fr...

80 MIN2019 AUG 5
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#011 Everybody Lies… Including Behavior Analysts! w/ Kathy Fox

Listener Mail: Tired of the Bullshit & a Follow-up to Privilege and Culture

EBig shout out to Wendy for sending in a segment on the topic! Here's our replies and the original full episode: https://www.thedailyba.com/tce --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange/message

22 MIN2019 AUG 5
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Listener Mail: Tired of the Bullshit & a Follow-up to Privilege and Culture

#010 Work/Life Balance is a Damn Illusion | The Controversial Exchange

EIn this episode, RYANO and Dimitri reflect on a recent episode of the Behavioral Observations Podcast w/ Matt Cicoria on The Illusion of Work/Life Balance. Thanks for inspiring us Matt, Jonathan, and Kristen! 0:02:24 Check Out: The Behavioral Observations Podcast 0:02:29 Check Out: The Daily BA's Video on Work-Life Balance 0:09:14 Topic Change: RYANO's Experience and Advice for Balancing Life, Work, and Personal Values 0:12:14 Topic Change: Is there such a thing as work-life balance? 0:14:14 Topic Change: Value Directed Behavior and Competing Values 0:17:29 Check Out: Jordan Harry's Ted Talk How To Read a Book a Day 0:19:54 Check Out: Matthew Norman's We're All Damaged 0:22:14 Topic Change: Preventing Burnout 0:24:19 Topic Change: Time Wasting Behavior 0:26:59 Topic Change: Flat Earth Society Check-In 0:29:14 Call to Action: Audit you Life and Create a Weekly Time Budget (168hr), Share your Tips and Tricks with Us! --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make ...

36 MIN2019 JUN 27
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#010 Work/Life Balance is a Damn Illusion | The Controversial Exchange

#009 Subject Matter Experts in Behavior Analysis | The Controversial Exchange

EIn this episode, RYANO and Dimitri ask some questions about the process for identifying Subject Matter Experts in Behavior Analysis. Links for Today 0:02:14 Topic: Subject Matter Experts (SMEs) 0:17:14 Check Out: The BACB's process on SME 2:17:14 Topic Change: The Gap between Academics and Practitioners 5:02:14 Topic Change: Subspecializations and the Certification Process 5:52:14 Check Out: The BACB's videos on Subspecialty Areas in Behavior Analysis 14:47:14 Topic Change: Gaining Subject Matter Expertise and being Deemed an SME 22:17:14 Call to Action: Learn, Discuss, and Share the info you have on SME! *Amazon links are affiliate links. No other links are affiliates unless disclosed in parentheses next to the link. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange/message

28 MIN2019 JUN 23
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#009 Subject Matter Experts in Behavior Analysis | The Controversial Exchange

#008 Reflections from ABAI and The Lack of Operational Definitions | The Controversial Exchange

EIn this episode, Dimitri and Ryan discuss their personal experiences at ABAI and dive into a conversation about privilege and the culture in behavior analysis. Key Timestamps: 0:02:35 Topic Change: Dimitri's ABAI Reflections 0:03:20 Topic Change: Should BCBA's Avoid Controversial Discussions? 0:08:36 Check Out: The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck: A Counterintuitive Approach to Living a Good Life by Mark Manson 0:14:55 Topic Change: Ryan's ABAI Reflections 0:17:35 Check Out: The Daily BA's Hank Schlinger Video 0:19:55 Topic Change: Operationally Defining Privilege and Privilege in Behavior Analysis 0:22:15 For more information on Dimitri's examples Check Out: Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind by Yuval Harari 0:31:35 Call to Listeners to Join this Discussion on Culture and Privilege Support this effort through www.patreon.com/thedailyba --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor....

36 MIN2019 JUN 16
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#008 Reflections from ABAI and The Lack of Operational Definitions | The Controversial Exchange

#007 Raw & Uncut | The Controversial Exchange

EIn this episode, RYANO and Dimitri go raw and uncensored with a Facebook Live audience to talk about honesty in science, their favorite toilet paper, conference in behavior analysis, neurodiversity and more! Make sure to call in using the anchor app -> https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange/message

96 MIN2019 MAY 24
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#007 Raw & Uncut | The Controversial Exchange

Latest Episodes

2019 Year In Review | TCE #015

E0:01:15 Topic: Dimitri and Ryan each talk about why and how The Controversial Exchange got started 0:06:15 Topic Change: A reflection of the podcast's growing pains in 2019 0:06:15 Check out the Why We Do What We Do podcast 0:08:00 Check out episode #004 Unethical & Unprofessional Behavior Analysts with Merrill Winston 0:08:00 Check out episode #014 Is EAB Still Breathing? w/ Anita Li and Matthew Bell 0:08:40 Check out episode #005 Mental Health & Behavior Analysis w/ Tina Patterson 0:08:40 Check out episode #010 Work/Life Balance is a Damn Illusion 0:09:25 Check out episode #002 Do Behavior Analysts DESERVE to Branch Outside Autism? w/ Miranda 0:09:25 Topic Change: Next steps, goals, and changes for 2020! 0:13:20 Are you interested in discussing a big issue in the field of behavior analysis on The Controversial Exchange? Reach out to us! 0:13:20 Check out Linda Hayes' research contributions and publications 0:18:10 Topic Shift: Ryan's content goals for The Controversial Exchange and The Daily BA 0:18:10 Topic Change: Ryan and Dimitri discuss their personal gains from recording a podcast 0:26:05 Shout out to our (~1000) regular listeners - we are so lucky and grateful! 0:26:05 Topic Change: Ryan and Dimitri open up about their personal lives 0:36:28 Topic Change: The field in review - growth, continuing education, social media, shareholders, and more 0:36:28 Check out the Inside the BACB podcast 0:37:10 Check out Jim Carr's research contributions and publications 0:37:10 Check out the Association for Behavior Analysis International's (ABAI) Blog 0:41:25 Check out the Behavior Bitches Podcast 0:41:25 Check out the Confessions of a Behavior Analyst group on Facebook 0:46:40 Check out the Changes to the BACB’s International Focus 0:46:40 Check out the Association for Contextual Behavioral Science (ACBS) 0:51:55 Call to Action: Tell us what your thoughts are on 2019 and what you want to see in 2020 through our social media channels! Thank you all again! --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange/message

58 MIN1 w ago
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2019 Year In Review | TCE #015

#014 Is EAB Still Breathing? w/ Anita Li and Matthew Bell

EFull Links located at: https://thedailyba.com/tce 0:01:30 Hosts and Guests (Matt and Anita!) Introductions and Backgrounds in EAB! 0:02:25 Check out Matt's lab at SCU 0:03:10 Check out Michael Dougher's contributions and publications 0:03:57 Check out Al Poling's contributions and publications 0:04:00 Check out the journal Behavior Analysis: Research and Practice 0:04:30 Topic Change: What is EAB? 0:04:45 Question for listeners: Have you ever worked with animals? 0:07:00 For an example of Tony Nevin's publications on behavioral momentum check out The Analysis of Behavioral Momentum (1983) 0:07:00 For an example of Tony Nevin's publications on behavioral momentum check out The Momentum of Compliance (1996) 0:08:10 Topic Change: Where is EAB's current and future focus? 0:09:20 Check out the Journal of the Experimental Analysis of Behavior 0:10:20 Check out Peter Killeen's contributions and publications 0:11:47 Check out Timberlake and Allison's (1974) Response Deprivation: An Empirica...

92 MIN2019 AUG 25
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#014 Is EAB Still Breathing? w/ Anita Li and Matthew Bell

#013 Science is Supposed to be Progressive (Dogma in ABA)

E0:01:44 Introduce Merrill Winston - Check out TCE's previous episode with Merrill 0:01:47 Introduce Jim Moore - Check out The Daily BA's video The Field Didn't Change... The Profession Didn't Change... I Changed w/ Jim Moore 0:01:50 Topic: Pliance, Tracking, Rule-Governed Behavior and how this relates to Authority and Power 0:02:05 For additional reading on Pliance and Tracking check out Hayes & Wilson (1993) Some applied implications of a contemporary behavior-analytic account of verbal events 0:02:05 For additional reading on Pliance and Tracking check out Rule-governed behavior: Cognition, contingencies, and instructional control by Steven Hayes 0:02:05 For additional reading on Pliance and Tracking check out Kissi et al. (2017) A systematic review of pliance, tracking, and augmenting 0:03:15 Check out Jordan Belisle's research contributions and publications 0:08:30 Topic Change: How Pliance has affected the divide between academia and practitioners 0:09:40 Check out David Barlow...

86 MIN2019 AUG 20
Comments
#013 Science is Supposed to be Progressive (Dogma in ABA)

#012 Behavior Analysis: A Field Behind the Times?

ELinks for Today 0:02:57 Topic: The differences between new and experienced BCBA's 0:06:02 Check out the Daily BA's video on Behavior Analysis’s Communication Problem 0:06:27 Topic Change: Everyone's role in disseminating good/bad and right/wrong information 0:12:57 Check out one of the Daily BA's videos with T. V. Joe Layng 0:13:27 Check out the Daily BA's video with Jim Moore 0:13:27 Check out TCE's episode with Merrill Winston 0:21:12 For additional reading on the comparison of the spread of disease and misinformation on social media check out "Ideas spread like disease: Let’s treat them with the same caution" published by Nick Enfield on The Guardian's website 0:24:32 Check out TCE's upcoming episode with Merrill Winston and Jim Moore 0:25:52 Check out this video interview with Joe Rogan, Peter Boghossian and James Lindsay for more information about the hoax papers project 0:29:32 Topic Change: The dark side of behavior analysis 0:29:32 Check out the trailer for The Great Hack ...

50 MIN2019 AUG 11
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#012 Behavior Analysis: A Field Behind the Times?

#011 Everybody Lies… Including Behavior Analysts! w/ Kathy Fox

ELinks for Today 0:03:07 Kathy, Ryan, and Dimitri discuss "Everybody Lies: Big Data, New Data, and What the Internet Can Tell Us About Who We Really Are" by Seth Stephens-Davidowitz 0:03:32 Check out the Ted Talk: "The Secrets in Our Google Searches" with Seth Stephens-Davidowitz 0:15:32 Check out the Convergence Conference (CHATT Con) hosted annually in Seattle 0:15:32 For some extra reading on AI and Psychotherapy check out Luis de Mello and Alves de Souza's (2019) theoretical piece "Psychotherapy and Artificial Intelligence: A Proposal for Alignment" 0:19:57 Topic Change: The importance of our privacy vs. our free access to social media 0:27:02 Check out Marques Brownlee on Youtube 0:29:22 Topic Change: Could big data lead to the extinction of behavior analysts? 0:29:57 Check out Koenig's (1971) summary of Ogden Lindsley's Behavior Bank - "The Behavior Bank: A System for Sharing Precise Information" 0:30:12 Mentioned: Skinner's article in Time Magazine (1971) - "We Can't Afford Fr...

80 MIN2019 AUG 5
Comments
#011 Everybody Lies… Including Behavior Analysts! w/ Kathy Fox

Listener Mail: Tired of the Bullshit & a Follow-up to Privilege and Culture

EBig shout out to Wendy for sending in a segment on the topic! Here's our replies and the original full episode: https://www.thedailyba.com/tce --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange/message

22 MIN2019 AUG 5
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Listener Mail: Tired of the Bullshit & a Follow-up to Privilege and Culture

#010 Work/Life Balance is a Damn Illusion | The Controversial Exchange

EIn this episode, RYANO and Dimitri reflect on a recent episode of the Behavioral Observations Podcast w/ Matt Cicoria on The Illusion of Work/Life Balance. Thanks for inspiring us Matt, Jonathan, and Kristen! 0:02:24 Check Out: The Behavioral Observations Podcast 0:02:29 Check Out: The Daily BA's Video on Work-Life Balance 0:09:14 Topic Change: RYANO's Experience and Advice for Balancing Life, Work, and Personal Values 0:12:14 Topic Change: Is there such a thing as work-life balance? 0:14:14 Topic Change: Value Directed Behavior and Competing Values 0:17:29 Check Out: Jordan Harry's Ted Talk How To Read a Book a Day 0:19:54 Check Out: Matthew Norman's We're All Damaged 0:22:14 Topic Change: Preventing Burnout 0:24:19 Topic Change: Time Wasting Behavior 0:26:59 Topic Change: Flat Earth Society Check-In 0:29:14 Call to Action: Audit you Life and Create a Weekly Time Budget (168hr), Share your Tips and Tricks with Us! --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make ...

36 MIN2019 JUN 27
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#010 Work/Life Balance is a Damn Illusion | The Controversial Exchange

#009 Subject Matter Experts in Behavior Analysis | The Controversial Exchange

EIn this episode, RYANO and Dimitri ask some questions about the process for identifying Subject Matter Experts in Behavior Analysis. Links for Today 0:02:14 Topic: Subject Matter Experts (SMEs) 0:17:14 Check Out: The BACB's process on SME 2:17:14 Topic Change: The Gap between Academics and Practitioners 5:02:14 Topic Change: Subspecializations and the Certification Process 5:52:14 Check Out: The BACB's videos on Subspecialty Areas in Behavior Analysis 14:47:14 Topic Change: Gaining Subject Matter Expertise and being Deemed an SME 22:17:14 Call to Action: Learn, Discuss, and Share the info you have on SME! *Amazon links are affiliate links. No other links are affiliates unless disclosed in parentheses next to the link. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange/message

28 MIN2019 JUN 23
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#009 Subject Matter Experts in Behavior Analysis | The Controversial Exchange

#008 Reflections from ABAI and The Lack of Operational Definitions | The Controversial Exchange

EIn this episode, Dimitri and Ryan discuss their personal experiences at ABAI and dive into a conversation about privilege and the culture in behavior analysis. Key Timestamps: 0:02:35 Topic Change: Dimitri's ABAI Reflections 0:03:20 Topic Change: Should BCBA's Avoid Controversial Discussions? 0:08:36 Check Out: The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck: A Counterintuitive Approach to Living a Good Life by Mark Manson 0:14:55 Topic Change: Ryan's ABAI Reflections 0:17:35 Check Out: The Daily BA's Hank Schlinger Video 0:19:55 Topic Change: Operationally Defining Privilege and Privilege in Behavior Analysis 0:22:15 For more information on Dimitri's examples Check Out: Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind by Yuval Harari 0:31:35 Call to Listeners to Join this Discussion on Culture and Privilege Support this effort through www.patreon.com/thedailyba --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor....

36 MIN2019 JUN 16
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#008 Reflections from ABAI and The Lack of Operational Definitions | The Controversial Exchange

#007 Raw & Uncut | The Controversial Exchange

EIn this episode, RYANO and Dimitri go raw and uncensored with a Facebook Live audience to talk about honesty in science, their favorite toilet paper, conference in behavior analysis, neurodiversity and more! Make sure to call in using the anchor app -> https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thecontroversialexchange/message

96 MIN2019 MAY 24
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#007 Raw & Uncut | The Controversial Exchange
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