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A conversation between two people who share something deeply in common and yet remain deeply divided, hosted by Sarah Shourd. First, we interview each guest separately and ask them about the events that formed their beliefs. Then we get them to talk to each other and hash things out.

Latest Episodes

Van Jones - Problems with the Left

A conversation with Van Jones about what he thinks the left still doesn’t understand. And reflections on a season of difficult conversations.

20 MIN2018 SEP 5
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Van Jones - Problems with the Left

Joscha & Y-Vonne - Will Robots Be Racist?

A conversation between Harvard-nerdJoscha Bachanddiversity-evangelistY-Vonne Hutchinsonon bias in tech and the future of humanity.Y-Vonne fears artificial intelligence will reflect the blind spots of the computer geniuses developing it. Joscha is one of those geniuses.

55 MIN2018 AUG 22
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Joscha & Y-Vonne - Will Robots Be Racist?

Tish & Mike - “We could all use a little warming”

A conversation between suburban-radicalTish O'Dell and Cajun-fisherman Mike Schaff about global warming and class.Bothknow what it is like for environmental destruction to threaten what they love the most, butonly one thinks global warming is a “big deal.”

59 MIN2018 AUG 15
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Tish & Mike - “We could all use a little warming”

Peter & DeVone - Policing Ourselves

A conversation between cop-scholarPeter Moskos and urban-peacekeeper Devone Bogganon policing, race and “politically correct bullshit.” Both have committed their lives to reducing urban gun violence, one by reforming policing and the other by caring for criminals.

66 MIN2018 AUG 8
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Peter & DeVone - Policing Ourselves

Matt & Jackie – A Sibling Gender War

A conversation between scrappy writer Matt Sumell and his social justice warrior sister Jackie Sumell. They're two "curly-haired troublemakers" who grew up in a household that was torn apart by a gender war. Decades later, that war still dominates their relationship.

61 MIN2018 AUG 1
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Matt & Jackie – A Sibling Gender War

Introducing Of Two Minds

Our first episode premieres in early August. Get ready for some seriously amazing conversations!

2 MIN2018 JUL 18
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Introducing Of Two Minds
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Latest Episodes

Van Jones - Problems with the Left

A conversation with Van Jones about what he thinks the left still doesn’t understand. And reflections on a season of difficult conversations.

20 MIN2018 SEP 5
Comments
Van Jones - Problems with the Left

Joscha & Y-Vonne - Will Robots Be Racist?

A conversation between Harvard-nerdJoscha Bachanddiversity-evangelistY-Vonne Hutchinsonon bias in tech and the future of humanity.Y-Vonne fears artificial intelligence will reflect the blind spots of the computer geniuses developing it. Joscha is one of those geniuses.

55 MIN2018 AUG 22
Comments
Joscha & Y-Vonne - Will Robots Be Racist?

Tish & Mike - “We could all use a little warming”

A conversation between suburban-radicalTish O'Dell and Cajun-fisherman Mike Schaff about global warming and class.Bothknow what it is like for environmental destruction to threaten what they love the most, butonly one thinks global warming is a “big deal.”

59 MIN2018 AUG 15
Comments
Tish & Mike - “We could all use a little warming”

Peter & DeVone - Policing Ourselves

A conversation between cop-scholarPeter Moskos and urban-peacekeeper Devone Bogganon policing, race and “politically correct bullshit.” Both have committed their lives to reducing urban gun violence, one by reforming policing and the other by caring for criminals.

66 MIN2018 AUG 8
Comments
Peter & DeVone - Policing Ourselves

Matt & Jackie – A Sibling Gender War

A conversation between scrappy writer Matt Sumell and his social justice warrior sister Jackie Sumell. They're two "curly-haired troublemakers" who grew up in a household that was torn apart by a gender war. Decades later, that war still dominates their relationship.

61 MIN2018 AUG 1
Comments
Matt & Jackie – A Sibling Gender War

Introducing Of Two Minds

Our first episode premieres in early August. Get ready for some seriously amazing conversations!

2 MIN2018 JUL 18
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Introducing Of Two Minds
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