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The Familiar Strange

Anthropology PhD students Ian Pollock, Julia Brown, Simon Theobald, and Jodie-Lee Trembath

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The Familiar Strange
The Familiar Strange

The Familiar Strange

Anthropology PhD students Ian Pollock, Julia Brown, Simon Theobald, and Jodie-Lee Trembath

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The Familiar Strange is a podcast about doing anthropology: that is, about listening, looking, trying out, and being with, in pursuit of uncommon knowledge about humans and culture. Find show notes, plus our blog about anthropology's role in the world, at https://www.thefamiliarstrange.com. Twitter: @tfsTweets. FB: facebook.com/thefamiliarstrange. Instagram: @thefamiliarstrange.Brought to you by your familiar strangers: Ian Pollock, Jodie-Lee Trembath, Julia Brown, Simon Theobald, Kylie Wong Dolan; produced by Deanna Catto and Matthew Phung, and with support from the Australian Anthropological Society, the Australian National University’s Schools of Culture, History and Language and Archeology and Anthropology, and the Australian Centre for Public Awareness of Science, and produced in collaboration with the American Anthropological Association. We acknowledge and celebrate the first Australians on whose traditional lands we record this podcast, and pay our respects to the elders of the Ngunnawal and Ngambri peoples, past, present, and emerging.

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#50 An Anthropology of Universities: Jodie Trembath on Selling Academia

This episode, Kylie interviews a very familiar guest ... Dr Jodie-Lee Trembath (aka Jodie from TFS)! Now, Jodie's no stranger to qualifications, but this year she completed her PhD - which is a MAMMOTH achievement - so we thought it was about time to pick her brain to understand more about universities and fieldwork. They start off by discussing Jodie's research in Vietnam, about 'authenticity' and the perpetuation of an authentic image, about the navigation of being both an 'insider' and an 'outsider' in the field, and finally they talk about us - that is, The Familiar Strange project. This is also Kylie's first interview on TFS! "Is this food authentic? Well, that depends on whether YOU think that authentic food needs to be from a particular place, whether it needs to have a particular flavour, have specific ingredients that come from a particular place? If you don't think all of those things are necessary for authenticity, then you might think that a particular food is perfectly ...

40 MIN3 d ago
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#50 An Anthropology of Universities: Jodie Trembath on Selling Academia

Faire une anthropologie multilingue, avec Monica Heller et Émilie Urbain: TFS in French

Monica Heller est professeure en anthropologie linguistique à l’Université de Toronto (Canada). Émilie Urbain est professeure adjointe de linguistique au département de français de l’Université Carleton. Elles sont bilingues (français/anglais). Elles ont grandi et travaillent dans des zones périphériques des marchés linguistiques dominants de production du savoir anthropologique que sont les États-Unis et la France (le Canada francophone – aussi bien le Québec que l’Ontario et l’Acadie; la Belgique, la Louisiane). Leur discipline est périphérique et floue: l’anthropologie linguistique n’existe qu’en Amérique de Nord, dans un rapport difficile avec l’anthropologie socioculturelle. Ailleurs ça s’appelle la sociolinguistique; complètement évacuée de l’anthropologie, elle existe dans un rapport difficile avec les sciences du langage. Leur conversation examine les différents aspects de ce point de vue des marges. Every so often, The Familiar Strange will bring you bonus episodes in languages other than English. In today's episode, Monica Heller, professor of linguistic anthropology at the University of Toronto, and Émilie Urbain, assistant professor of French at Carleton University, discuss the work of building knowledge across national, linguistic, and disciplinary boundaries. This podcast was recorded at the annual conference of the American Anthropological Association in San Jose, California, on November 14, 2018. CITATIONS Basque, Maurice (2008) "Minorités de langue officielle: Réflexions personnelles." Canadian Issues, , 20. Frenette, Yves (1998) Brève histoire des Canadiens français Montréal, Éditions du Boréal. Heller, M and B McElhinny (2017) Language, Colonialism, Capitalism: Toward a Critical History. Toronto: University of Toronto Press Heller, Monica (2011) Paths to Post-nationalism: A Critical Ethnography of Language and Identity. Oxford: Oxford University Press. Project website: http://www.uncanadienerrant.ca/" Urbain, Émilie (2016), « Towards a “Bilingual American Citizen”: language ideologies, citizenship and race in 19th Century French Louisiana », Language and Communication, 51: 17-29. This anthropology podcast is supported by the Australian Anthropological Society, the schools of Culture, History, and Language and Archaeology and Anthropology at Australian National University, and the Australian Centre for the Public Awareness of Science, and is produced in collaboration with the American Anthropological Association.

54 MIN2 w ago
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Faire une anthropologie multilingue, avec Monica Heller et Émilie Urbain: TFS in French

#49: Intolerable Ads, Introvert Anthros, Irrevocable Ties & Indigenous Symbols: This Month on TFS

This month, Kylie [0:50] kicks off our conversation by reflecting on our blog about racism in sport and asks us about the ethics of ad targeting on social media. This comes after we decided to try boosting the blog post through a paid Facebook advertisement, since we felt this was a topic that needed to be discussed in the broader community. “What happened when we did that was a number of people commented on the blog, [but] they continued with all the racist narratives that the blog was trying to negate” – effectively normalising these kinds of comments. Since we are still digesting this situation, we are left asking many questions: given our founding goals at The Familiar Strange to engage in a public anthropology, should we be pushing into audiences that result in uncomfortable conversations? Should we really expect people to read our content if they find it through advertisements rather than organically, or when they know their values are different to ours at TFS? Next, we mov...

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#49: Intolerable Ads, Introvert Anthros, Irrevocable Ties & Indigenous Symbols: This Month on TFS

#48 Nature of Anthropology: Andrew Kipnis on China, Funerals, Conferences & Ethnographic Socialising

"I think you’d be crazy to go into something like anthropology if you want to learn how to say whatever other people tell you to say - you know, maybe you should become a lawyer!" This week we bring you a special treat – an interview between our good friend Zoe Hatten and her PhD supervisor Professor Andrew Kipnis. Andrew Kipnis, Professor at the Australian National University and author of multiple books, most recently From Village to City: Social Transformation in a Chinese Country Sect, spoke with Zoe at the AAA Conference in San Jose last year. They spoke about the way academics speak at conferences and the divide between younger and older generation anthropologists, about funeral ceremonies in China and how to navigate the intricacies of social relationships when doing fieldwork, and discussed the evolution of methods and ideas in action, reflecting on Andrew’s career. QUOTES and LINKS can be found at our website thefamiliarstrange.com And if you haven’t already checked it out, head over to our Facebook group The Familiar Strange Chats. We’d like to keep our discussions going from this podcast episode, so let us know your thoughts: what was most interesting? What was most surprising? Did the episode remind you of something else you’ve read, seen, or heard lately – if so, what is it? Let’s keep talking strange, together. Our Patreon can be found at https://www.patreon.com/thefamiliarstrange This anthropology podcast is supported by the Australian Anthropological Society, the ANU’s College of Asia and the Pacific and College of Arts and Social Sciences, and the Australian Centre for the Public Awareness of Science, and is produced in collaboration with the American Anthropological Association. Music by Pete Dabro: dabro1.bandcamp.com Shownotes by Deanna Catto Podcast edited by Ian Pollock and Matthew Phung

29 MINOCT 14
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#48 Nature of Anthropology: Andrew Kipnis on China, Funerals, Conferences & Ethnographic Socialising

#47 Meaningful Declutter, Local Activism, Managing Fire & Writing Up This Month On TFS

Firstly, we’d like to introduce you all to Alex D’Aloia, who is managing our Facebook group TFS Chats – you might remember the blog post that he wrote for us at the start of this year: "Anthropologists and Dragons". Make sure to check out the chat group after listening to this episode and let us know what questions you have and what you found most interesting. Julia [1:19] starts off our conversation this month by turning our attention to things – specifically, things that we have an emotional attachment to that are in our home environment. From an anthropological perspective, we could turn to Daniel Miller, who writes about material culture and attachment; but there’s also a rise in minimalistic households formed around Marie Kondo’s example of, essentially, if it doesn’t spark joy, then you don’t need it, which creates a new understanding of what the material household environment should be. How do we deal with stuff and the emotion of stuff in the home environment? Kylie [6:54] then moves our conversation towards activism, asking us: what is it that insights social action, especially when the social action is for things bigger than us? For instance, in Australia we have seen social support of this kind recently regarding the introduction of the extradition bill in Hong Kong as well as the case against the deportation of the Tamil family. Alex thinks of Benedict Anderson’s imagined communities and navigating our sense of belonging while Jodie questions how much is social action about the organisation of communities and how much is it about the way that social action builds momentum? Next Jodie [11:42] talks about another topic very close to home for those of us from Australia – bushfire season, which has started much earlier this year than it usually does. We have to think carefully about what a bushfire means in order to manage it, and Jodie tells us that to different people, fire means different things – to a firefighter it means one thing, to an anthropologist it means another, particularly in Indigenous contexts. Touching on Tim Neale’s paper, about the increased inclusion of Indigenous people in fire management discussions (not only in Australia), Jodie asks us about the meaning of fire and how we know when it’s dangerous. Alex [15:58] wraps up our conversation with some questions about anthropological methods - specifically during the early writing up stage. “Where I’ve been having difficulties is … trying to connect this to theory … my reluctance of imposing my own thoughts and models on my data and my informants”. Julia offers an alternative viewpoint, suggesting that you could approach the task from the opposite end – start with the theory and then find examples where the things your participants have said helps to back up the theory. Jodie encourages researchers to ask themselves “what is it that makes me think this is what I am observing?” and to be transparent about how your thinking developed. LINKS AND CITATIONS can be found on our website thefamiliarstrange.com If you'd like to support TFS, head over to our Patreon page This anthropology podcast is supported by the Australian Anthropological Society, the ANU’s College of Asia and the Pacific and College of Arts and Social Sciences, and the Australian Centre for the Public Awareness of Science, and is produced in collaboration with the American Anthropological Association. Music by Pete Dabro: dabro1.bandcamp.com Shownotes by Deanna Catto, with assistance from our intern Sheawin Leong. Podcast edited by Matthew Phung and Kylie Wong Dolan

22 MINSEP 30
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#47 Meaningful Declutter, Local Activism, Managing Fire & Writing Up This Month On TFS

#46 Reconfigurable: Elanor Huntington Talks Engineering, Anthropology, & How We're Making Our World

“Not only do we need engineers working alongside anthropologists to do good quality engineering, I also think that we need to do an anthropology of engineers… Engineers are making our world, right? And, the way that we, as engineers, think collectively, behave collectively, what we consider to be important... I think somebody should be watching that and reflecting on that and [relaying] that back to us, to society, to understand how the people who are making our world actually view the world.” This is the eighth and FINAL episode in our STS podcast series. The aim of this series was to explore the intersection between science and anthropology, to better understand the contemporary issues that the amazing people featured in this series try to solve. We'd like to take this moment to thank everyone who has been a part of our STS series, as well as everyone who has listened along with us. So in this episode, Ian chats with Professor Elanor Huntington, the first (and current) female Dean of Engineering and Computer Science at the Australian National University.While Elanor's research has specialised in quantum optics (which, from my understanding, relates to the application of quantum mechanics to phenomena involving light), she is also looking to the future - a future of STEM thatneedsanthropologists. They talk about the problematic nature of describing human behaviour through numbers and algorithms, unpack what an anthropology of the internet would entail, they discuss the importance of trust in scientific endeavours and the decline of the 'expert', and ponder what the future of engineering will look like, as well as what it means to take control of making your future. For a list of our links and citations, as well as our favourite quotes from this episode, visit thefamiliarstrange.com Our Patreon can be found at https://www.patreon.com/thefamiliarstrange This anthropology podcast is supported by the Australian Anthropological Society, the ANU’s College of Asia and the Pacific and College of Arts and Social Sciences, and the Australian Centre for the Public Awareness of Science, and is produced in collaboration with the American Anthropological Association. Music by Pete Dabro: dabro1.bandcamp.com Shownotes by Deanna Catto Podcast edited by Ian Pollock

43 MINSEP 16
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#46 Reconfigurable: Elanor Huntington Talks Engineering, Anthropology, & How We're Making Our World

#45: Financial Identity, Quiet Fields, Silencing Students & Angry Anthropologists: This Month On TFS

Simon [1:00] begins our chat by asking what happens to your identity when you become a dependent spouse; that is, when your partner is supporting the household financially and you are not, especially in a new country. “For the last maybe 20 or 30 years, the assumption has been that both men and women will probably work together to support a household [financially], what does it mean to be a spouse that works at home? And what does it mean for the masculinities that we will see in the future…?” [Note: this is coming from a middle-class, Australian context] Next, Kylie [6:09] turns our conversation towards fieldwork, as she has just come back from the Northern Territory where she hopes to conduct her PhD research (very exciting!). Because this is the first time doing anthropological fieldwork, she asks us: what does a typical day in the field look like, specifically regarding how to spend your time? Jodie reflects back on her first month of fieldwork, in which she found scheduling breaks for herself to be somewhat ‘away’ from her fieldsite was highly beneficial, especially since she found it exhausting constantly absorbing other people’s words, thoughts, energy and emotions. Simon reminds us that downtime is something you should expect to have and Julia reminds us that even in those times when it isn’t busy and chaotic, maybe there’s a reason for that – why does it seem quiet? Jodie adds that these ‘quiet’ times offer perfect opportunities to write descriptions about your field, which will help in the writing-up process later. We move onto a very current issue in Australia, as Jodie [10:35] discusses the recent meeting between Vice-Chancellors from Australian universities and the Minister for Education, Dan Tehan, regarding international Chinese students. There are two key issues that are framing the debate: (1) that Australian universities are relying too heavily on international Chinese students for funding, and (2) that there is a security risk posed by having international Chinese students who could potentially be spying at Australian universities (for more information see Links & Citations below). Jodie poses the question: where do you find that space between what is purely racist and racist policy and actual security threats, and how do you know the difference? Kylie asserts that “When we use those two lines of arguments, we overlook people’s experiences and think of them as either ‘security risks’ or ‘cash cows’”. Julia [15:13] ends our chat on an unusual note – that some people think anthropologists are ANGRY! This comes after she recently listened to an episode of the Making Sense podcast by Sam Harris featuring Jarod Diamond, in which they were having a laugh about angry anthropologists; Julia had also experienced feeling disgruntled after coming across a book that did not include the rich depth of research it needed, by failing to engage with the wide literature on the topic (the same criticism Diamond had come under). Can we really be mad, if we don’t put in the effort to communicate our research? Does this come from a failure of anthropologists to engage with a wider audience and – especially – scholars from other disciplines on the same topics? How does the issue of this image of the angry anthropologist impact on engagement and communication, which in turn impacts on the issue of representation? To see our Links & Citations, go to thefamiliarstrange.com This anthropology podcast is supported by the Australian Anthropological Society, the ANU’s College of Asia and the Pacific and College of Arts and Social Sciences, and the Australian Centre for the Public Awareness of Science, and is produced in collaboration with the American Anthropological Association. Music by Pete Dabro: dabro1.bandcamp.com Shownotes by Deanna Catto Podcast edited by Matthew Phung and Kylie Wong Dolan

21 MINSEP 2
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#45: Financial Identity, Quiet Fields, Silencing Students & Angry Anthropologists: This Month On TFS

#44 Digitising Migrants: Annalisa Pelizza on the European immigration crisis in an age of Big Data

This is the 7th episode in our Science and Technology interview series. This time, Jodie is interviewing Annalisa Pelizza, Professor in Technology Studies of Communication at the University of Bologna in Italy, Visiting Professor at the University of Twente in the Netherlands, and lead investigator on the project "Processing Citizenship: Digital registration of migrants as co-production of citizens, territory and Europe". They talk about the way that digital infrastructures, such as the databases used to collect information from migrants when they first arrive on European soil, actually help to shape these people into migrants, basically constructing them as a different category of person than perhaps they were before they arrived. “Migration issues in Europe are a hot topic right now - it's not news that they have been used in the last 50 years as a way to steer public opinion into right wing positions... They are mobilised as elements in a narration of invasion, losing cultural s...

38 MINAUG 19
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#44 Digitising Migrants: Annalisa Pelizza on the European immigration crisis in an age of Big Data

#43 Deepfakes, words vs actions, hatred in anth & social dissociation(Re-Release)

This month, we were devastated to discover that the audio file of the awesome podcast panel we had recorded for you was completely corrupted (cue sounds of wailing and gnashing of teeth!). Not to be defeated, we decided we would re-release one of our early episodes, and chose this one because a) it has one of the lowest listen-counts of any of our episodes (and yet is awesome) and b) it is pretty relevant right now, considering its discussion of deepfakes. All the major social media platforms are considering changing their deepfake policies right now, after a doctored video of US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi was left on Facebook - this was recorded just as the term "deepfake" was coming to be known in the public consciousness. It's also good timing considering that we are in the midst of an STS season with our interview episodes. So, apologies that this is not new material, but we hope you enjoy it anyway! Check out the full show notes here! https://wordpress.com/post/thefamiliarstran...

23 MINAUG 5
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#43 Deepfakes, words vs actions, hatred in anth & social dissociation(Re-Release)

#42 Economies Of Openness: Ros Attenborough On Cultures Of Trust, Exclusion & Generosity In STS

"All of these questions deserve...just that little bit extra thought about what would openness look like for my study and in my discipline? What would it achieve? What effects would it have? And you know that when you have research interview data it'snevergoing to be as simple as just 'publishing it on the internet'. There are all the ethical considerations" This episode 6 of our STS season, Rosalind Attenborough, who is currently completing her PhD at the Science, Technology and Innovation Studies centre at The University of Edinburgh, talks with our own Julia Brown. Having done her undergraduate training at the ANU, Ros worked for PLoS journals, before retraining in the social studies of science at University College London and then University of Edinburgh. Since 2015, she has been researching how scientists view the idea of scientific openness, which she has explored through numerous interviews with scientists, and policymakers and advocates. As you are about to hear, the meaning of openness in science is multidimensional and is becoming an increasingly critical topic. Openness in science can refer to open access publishing, open methods and data, and interpersonal openness. Ros explains what has driven open access policy changes in the UK in particular, the funding inequality this produces, and cultures of value and trust economies in science. Ros encourages us to consider the question of openness in ethnographic methods. As a case study of cultural influences on openness, Ros and Julia contemplate the CRISPR-baby scandal. DISCLAIMER: Ros, nor Julia, know much about the technicalities of the CRISPR case, they were merely discussing it as a way into thinking about cultural differences in value when it comes to ethical codes of scientific conduct. For the list of our links and citations used in this episode, head over to our website https://thefamiliarstrange.com/ This anthropology podcast is supported by theAustralian Anthropological Society, the ANU’sCollege of Asia and the PacificandCollege of Arts and Social Sciences, and theAustralian Centre for the Public Awareness of Science, and is produced in collaboration with theAmerican Anthropological Association. If you'd like to support The Familiar Strange, you can find our Patreon page here: https://www.patreon.com/thefamiliarstrange Music by Pete Dabro: dabro1.bandcamp.com Shownotes by Julia Brown and Deanna Catto

40 MINJUL 22
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#42 Economies Of Openness: Ros Attenborough On Cultures Of Trust, Exclusion & Generosity In STS

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#50 An Anthropology of Universities: Jodie Trembath on Selling Academia

This episode, Kylie interviews a very familiar guest ... Dr Jodie-Lee Trembath (aka Jodie from TFS)! Now, Jodie's no stranger to qualifications, but this year she completed her PhD - which is a MAMMOTH achievement - so we thought it was about time to pick her brain to understand more about universities and fieldwork. They start off by discussing Jodie's research in Vietnam, about 'authenticity' and the perpetuation of an authentic image, about the navigation of being both an 'insider' and an 'outsider' in the field, and finally they talk about us - that is, The Familiar Strange project. This is also Kylie's first interview on TFS! "Is this food authentic? Well, that depends on whether YOU think that authentic food needs to be from a particular place, whether it needs to have a particular flavour, have specific ingredients that come from a particular place? If you don't think all of those things are necessary for authenticity, then you might think that a particular food is perfectly ...

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#50 An Anthropology of Universities: Jodie Trembath on Selling Academia

Faire une anthropologie multilingue, avec Monica Heller et Émilie Urbain: TFS in French

Monica Heller est professeure en anthropologie linguistique à l’Université de Toronto (Canada). Émilie Urbain est professeure adjointe de linguistique au département de français de l’Université Carleton. Elles sont bilingues (français/anglais). Elles ont grandi et travaillent dans des zones périphériques des marchés linguistiques dominants de production du savoir anthropologique que sont les États-Unis et la France (le Canada francophone – aussi bien le Québec que l’Ontario et l’Acadie; la Belgique, la Louisiane). Leur discipline est périphérique et floue: l’anthropologie linguistique n’existe qu’en Amérique de Nord, dans un rapport difficile avec l’anthropologie socioculturelle. Ailleurs ça s’appelle la sociolinguistique; complètement évacuée de l’anthropologie, elle existe dans un rapport difficile avec les sciences du langage. Leur conversation examine les différents aspects de ce point de vue des marges. Every so often, The Familiar Strange will bring you bonus episodes in languages other than English. In today's episode, Monica Heller, professor of linguistic anthropology at the University of Toronto, and Émilie Urbain, assistant professor of French at Carleton University, discuss the work of building knowledge across national, linguistic, and disciplinary boundaries. This podcast was recorded at the annual conference of the American Anthropological Association in San Jose, California, on November 14, 2018. CITATIONS Basque, Maurice (2008) "Minorités de langue officielle: Réflexions personnelles." Canadian Issues, , 20. Frenette, Yves (1998) Brève histoire des Canadiens français Montréal, Éditions du Boréal. Heller, M and B McElhinny (2017) Language, Colonialism, Capitalism: Toward a Critical History. Toronto: University of Toronto Press Heller, Monica (2011) Paths to Post-nationalism: A Critical Ethnography of Language and Identity. Oxford: Oxford University Press. Project website: http://www.uncanadienerrant.ca/" Urbain, Émilie (2016), « Towards a “Bilingual American Citizen”: language ideologies, citizenship and race in 19th Century French Louisiana », Language and Communication, 51: 17-29. This anthropology podcast is supported by the Australian Anthropological Society, the schools of Culture, History, and Language and Archaeology and Anthropology at Australian National University, and the Australian Centre for the Public Awareness of Science, and is produced in collaboration with the American Anthropological Association.

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Faire une anthropologie multilingue, avec Monica Heller et Émilie Urbain: TFS in French

#49: Intolerable Ads, Introvert Anthros, Irrevocable Ties & Indigenous Symbols: This Month on TFS

This month, Kylie [0:50] kicks off our conversation by reflecting on our blog about racism in sport and asks us about the ethics of ad targeting on social media. This comes after we decided to try boosting the blog post through a paid Facebook advertisement, since we felt this was a topic that needed to be discussed in the broader community. “What happened when we did that was a number of people commented on the blog, [but] they continued with all the racist narratives that the blog was trying to negate” – effectively normalising these kinds of comments. Since we are still digesting this situation, we are left asking many questions: given our founding goals at The Familiar Strange to engage in a public anthropology, should we be pushing into audiences that result in uncomfortable conversations? Should we really expect people to read our content if they find it through advertisements rather than organically, or when they know their values are different to ours at TFS? Next, we mov...

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#49: Intolerable Ads, Introvert Anthros, Irrevocable Ties & Indigenous Symbols: This Month on TFS

#48 Nature of Anthropology: Andrew Kipnis on China, Funerals, Conferences & Ethnographic Socialising

"I think you’d be crazy to go into something like anthropology if you want to learn how to say whatever other people tell you to say - you know, maybe you should become a lawyer!" This week we bring you a special treat – an interview between our good friend Zoe Hatten and her PhD supervisor Professor Andrew Kipnis. Andrew Kipnis, Professor at the Australian National University and author of multiple books, most recently From Village to City: Social Transformation in a Chinese Country Sect, spoke with Zoe at the AAA Conference in San Jose last year. They spoke about the way academics speak at conferences and the divide between younger and older generation anthropologists, about funeral ceremonies in China and how to navigate the intricacies of social relationships when doing fieldwork, and discussed the evolution of methods and ideas in action, reflecting on Andrew’s career. QUOTES and LINKS can be found at our website thefamiliarstrange.com And if you haven’t already checked it out, head over to our Facebook group The Familiar Strange Chats. We’d like to keep our discussions going from this podcast episode, so let us know your thoughts: what was most interesting? What was most surprising? Did the episode remind you of something else you’ve read, seen, or heard lately – if so, what is it? Let’s keep talking strange, together. Our Patreon can be found at https://www.patreon.com/thefamiliarstrange This anthropology podcast is supported by the Australian Anthropological Society, the ANU’s College of Asia and the Pacific and College of Arts and Social Sciences, and the Australian Centre for the Public Awareness of Science, and is produced in collaboration with the American Anthropological Association. Music by Pete Dabro: dabro1.bandcamp.com Shownotes by Deanna Catto Podcast edited by Ian Pollock and Matthew Phung

29 MINOCT 14
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#48 Nature of Anthropology: Andrew Kipnis on China, Funerals, Conferences & Ethnographic Socialising

#47 Meaningful Declutter, Local Activism, Managing Fire & Writing Up This Month On TFS

Firstly, we’d like to introduce you all to Alex D’Aloia, who is managing our Facebook group TFS Chats – you might remember the blog post that he wrote for us at the start of this year: "Anthropologists and Dragons". Make sure to check out the chat group after listening to this episode and let us know what questions you have and what you found most interesting. Julia [1:19] starts off our conversation this month by turning our attention to things – specifically, things that we have an emotional attachment to that are in our home environment. From an anthropological perspective, we could turn to Daniel Miller, who writes about material culture and attachment; but there’s also a rise in minimalistic households formed around Marie Kondo’s example of, essentially, if it doesn’t spark joy, then you don’t need it, which creates a new understanding of what the material household environment should be. How do we deal with stuff and the emotion of stuff in the home environment? Kylie [6:54] then moves our conversation towards activism, asking us: what is it that insights social action, especially when the social action is for things bigger than us? For instance, in Australia we have seen social support of this kind recently regarding the introduction of the extradition bill in Hong Kong as well as the case against the deportation of the Tamil family. Alex thinks of Benedict Anderson’s imagined communities and navigating our sense of belonging while Jodie questions how much is social action about the organisation of communities and how much is it about the way that social action builds momentum? Next Jodie [11:42] talks about another topic very close to home for those of us from Australia – bushfire season, which has started much earlier this year than it usually does. We have to think carefully about what a bushfire means in order to manage it, and Jodie tells us that to different people, fire means different things – to a firefighter it means one thing, to an anthropologist it means another, particularly in Indigenous contexts. Touching on Tim Neale’s paper, about the increased inclusion of Indigenous people in fire management discussions (not only in Australia), Jodie asks us about the meaning of fire and how we know when it’s dangerous. Alex [15:58] wraps up our conversation with some questions about anthropological methods - specifically during the early writing up stage. “Where I’ve been having difficulties is … trying to connect this to theory … my reluctance of imposing my own thoughts and models on my data and my informants”. Julia offers an alternative viewpoint, suggesting that you could approach the task from the opposite end – start with the theory and then find examples where the things your participants have said helps to back up the theory. Jodie encourages researchers to ask themselves “what is it that makes me think this is what I am observing?” and to be transparent about how your thinking developed. LINKS AND CITATIONS can be found on our website thefamiliarstrange.com If you'd like to support TFS, head over to our Patreon page This anthropology podcast is supported by the Australian Anthropological Society, the ANU’s College of Asia and the Pacific and College of Arts and Social Sciences, and the Australian Centre for the Public Awareness of Science, and is produced in collaboration with the American Anthropological Association. Music by Pete Dabro: dabro1.bandcamp.com Shownotes by Deanna Catto, with assistance from our intern Sheawin Leong. Podcast edited by Matthew Phung and Kylie Wong Dolan

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#47 Meaningful Declutter, Local Activism, Managing Fire & Writing Up This Month On TFS

#46 Reconfigurable: Elanor Huntington Talks Engineering, Anthropology, & How We're Making Our World

“Not only do we need engineers working alongside anthropologists to do good quality engineering, I also think that we need to do an anthropology of engineers… Engineers are making our world, right? And, the way that we, as engineers, think collectively, behave collectively, what we consider to be important... I think somebody should be watching that and reflecting on that and [relaying] that back to us, to society, to understand how the people who are making our world actually view the world.” This is the eighth and FINAL episode in our STS podcast series. The aim of this series was to explore the intersection between science and anthropology, to better understand the contemporary issues that the amazing people featured in this series try to solve. We'd like to take this moment to thank everyone who has been a part of our STS series, as well as everyone who has listened along with us. So in this episode, Ian chats with Professor Elanor Huntington, the first (and current) female Dean of Engineering and Computer Science at the Australian National University.While Elanor's research has specialised in quantum optics (which, from my understanding, relates to the application of quantum mechanics to phenomena involving light), she is also looking to the future - a future of STEM thatneedsanthropologists. They talk about the problematic nature of describing human behaviour through numbers and algorithms, unpack what an anthropology of the internet would entail, they discuss the importance of trust in scientific endeavours and the decline of the 'expert', and ponder what the future of engineering will look like, as well as what it means to take control of making your future. For a list of our links and citations, as well as our favourite quotes from this episode, visit thefamiliarstrange.com Our Patreon can be found at https://www.patreon.com/thefamiliarstrange This anthropology podcast is supported by the Australian Anthropological Society, the ANU’s College of Asia and the Pacific and College of Arts and Social Sciences, and the Australian Centre for the Public Awareness of Science, and is produced in collaboration with the American Anthropological Association. Music by Pete Dabro: dabro1.bandcamp.com Shownotes by Deanna Catto Podcast edited by Ian Pollock

43 MINSEP 16
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#46 Reconfigurable: Elanor Huntington Talks Engineering, Anthropology, & How We're Making Our World

#45: Financial Identity, Quiet Fields, Silencing Students & Angry Anthropologists: This Month On TFS

Simon [1:00] begins our chat by asking what happens to your identity when you become a dependent spouse; that is, when your partner is supporting the household financially and you are not, especially in a new country. “For the last maybe 20 or 30 years, the assumption has been that both men and women will probably work together to support a household [financially], what does it mean to be a spouse that works at home? And what does it mean for the masculinities that we will see in the future…?” [Note: this is coming from a middle-class, Australian context] Next, Kylie [6:09] turns our conversation towards fieldwork, as she has just come back from the Northern Territory where she hopes to conduct her PhD research (very exciting!). Because this is the first time doing anthropological fieldwork, she asks us: what does a typical day in the field look like, specifically regarding how to spend your time? Jodie reflects back on her first month of fieldwork, in which she found scheduling breaks for herself to be somewhat ‘away’ from her fieldsite was highly beneficial, especially since she found it exhausting constantly absorbing other people’s words, thoughts, energy and emotions. Simon reminds us that downtime is something you should expect to have and Julia reminds us that even in those times when it isn’t busy and chaotic, maybe there’s a reason for that – why does it seem quiet? Jodie adds that these ‘quiet’ times offer perfect opportunities to write descriptions about your field, which will help in the writing-up process later. We move onto a very current issue in Australia, as Jodie [10:35] discusses the recent meeting between Vice-Chancellors from Australian universities and the Minister for Education, Dan Tehan, regarding international Chinese students. There are two key issues that are framing the debate: (1) that Australian universities are relying too heavily on international Chinese students for funding, and (2) that there is a security risk posed by having international Chinese students who could potentially be spying at Australian universities (for more information see Links & Citations below). Jodie poses the question: where do you find that space between what is purely racist and racist policy and actual security threats, and how do you know the difference? Kylie asserts that “When we use those two lines of arguments, we overlook people’s experiences and think of them as either ‘security risks’ or ‘cash cows’”. Julia [15:13] ends our chat on an unusual note – that some people think anthropologists are ANGRY! This comes after she recently listened to an episode of the Making Sense podcast by Sam Harris featuring Jarod Diamond, in which they were having a laugh about angry anthropologists; Julia had also experienced feeling disgruntled after coming across a book that did not include the rich depth of research it needed, by failing to engage with the wide literature on the topic (the same criticism Diamond had come under). Can we really be mad, if we don’t put in the effort to communicate our research? Does this come from a failure of anthropologists to engage with a wider audience and – especially – scholars from other disciplines on the same topics? How does the issue of this image of the angry anthropologist impact on engagement and communication, which in turn impacts on the issue of representation? To see our Links & Citations, go to thefamiliarstrange.com This anthropology podcast is supported by the Australian Anthropological Society, the ANU’s College of Asia and the Pacific and College of Arts and Social Sciences, and the Australian Centre for the Public Awareness of Science, and is produced in collaboration with the American Anthropological Association. Music by Pete Dabro: dabro1.bandcamp.com Shownotes by Deanna Catto Podcast edited by Matthew Phung and Kylie Wong Dolan

21 MINSEP 2
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#45: Financial Identity, Quiet Fields, Silencing Students & Angry Anthropologists: This Month On TFS

#44 Digitising Migrants: Annalisa Pelizza on the European immigration crisis in an age of Big Data

This is the 7th episode in our Science and Technology interview series. This time, Jodie is interviewing Annalisa Pelizza, Professor in Technology Studies of Communication at the University of Bologna in Italy, Visiting Professor at the University of Twente in the Netherlands, and lead investigator on the project "Processing Citizenship: Digital registration of migrants as co-production of citizens, territory and Europe". They talk about the way that digital infrastructures, such as the databases used to collect information from migrants when they first arrive on European soil, actually help to shape these people into migrants, basically constructing them as a different category of person than perhaps they were before they arrived. “Migration issues in Europe are a hot topic right now - it's not news that they have been used in the last 50 years as a way to steer public opinion into right wing positions... They are mobilised as elements in a narration of invasion, losing cultural s...

38 MINAUG 19
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#44 Digitising Migrants: Annalisa Pelizza on the European immigration crisis in an age of Big Data

#43 Deepfakes, words vs actions, hatred in anth & social dissociation(Re-Release)

This month, we were devastated to discover that the audio file of the awesome podcast panel we had recorded for you was completely corrupted (cue sounds of wailing and gnashing of teeth!). Not to be defeated, we decided we would re-release one of our early episodes, and chose this one because a) it has one of the lowest listen-counts of any of our episodes (and yet is awesome) and b) it is pretty relevant right now, considering its discussion of deepfakes. All the major social media platforms are considering changing their deepfake policies right now, after a doctored video of US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi was left on Facebook - this was recorded just as the term "deepfake" was coming to be known in the public consciousness. It's also good timing considering that we are in the midst of an STS season with our interview episodes. So, apologies that this is not new material, but we hope you enjoy it anyway! Check out the full show notes here! https://wordpress.com/post/thefamiliarstran...

23 MINAUG 5
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#43 Deepfakes, words vs actions, hatred in anth & social dissociation(Re-Release)

#42 Economies Of Openness: Ros Attenborough On Cultures Of Trust, Exclusion & Generosity In STS

"All of these questions deserve...just that little bit extra thought about what would openness look like for my study and in my discipline? What would it achieve? What effects would it have? And you know that when you have research interview data it'snevergoing to be as simple as just 'publishing it on the internet'. There are all the ethical considerations" This episode 6 of our STS season, Rosalind Attenborough, who is currently completing her PhD at the Science, Technology and Innovation Studies centre at The University of Edinburgh, talks with our own Julia Brown. Having done her undergraduate training at the ANU, Ros worked for PLoS journals, before retraining in the social studies of science at University College London and then University of Edinburgh. Since 2015, she has been researching how scientists view the idea of scientific openness, which she has explored through numerous interviews with scientists, and policymakers and advocates. As you are about to hear, the meaning of openness in science is multidimensional and is becoming an increasingly critical topic. Openness in science can refer to open access publishing, open methods and data, and interpersonal openness. Ros explains what has driven open access policy changes in the UK in particular, the funding inequality this produces, and cultures of value and trust economies in science. Ros encourages us to consider the question of openness in ethnographic methods. As a case study of cultural influences on openness, Ros and Julia contemplate the CRISPR-baby scandal. DISCLAIMER: Ros, nor Julia, know much about the technicalities of the CRISPR case, they were merely discussing it as a way into thinking about cultural differences in value when it comes to ethical codes of scientific conduct. For the list of our links and citations used in this episode, head over to our website https://thefamiliarstrange.com/ This anthropology podcast is supported by theAustralian Anthropological Society, the ANU’sCollege of Asia and the PacificandCollege of Arts and Social Sciences, and theAustralian Centre for the Public Awareness of Science, and is produced in collaboration with theAmerican Anthropological Association. If you'd like to support The Familiar Strange, you can find our Patreon page here: https://www.patreon.com/thefamiliarstrange Music by Pete Dabro: dabro1.bandcamp.com Shownotes by Julia Brown and Deanna Catto

40 MINJUL 22
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#42 Economies Of Openness: Ros Attenborough On Cultures Of Trust, Exclusion & Generosity In STS
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