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Fun. Unrefined. Two brothers who grew up on Michigan Football and read way too much mgoblog providing the fans take on each game every week of the season.

Latest Episodes

Do We Have To? Ohio 56, Michigan 27

Predictably distressing. That pretty much sums it up. On this week's episode we're not quite ready to talk about the mishaps of Saturday and instead talk about next year's team, basketball (hooray Juwan!), and the potential of going undefeated into Thanksgiving in 2020. We also pick our conference championship winners and plead with Don Brown to stay in Ann Arbor.

36 MIN2019 DEC 4
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Do We Have To? Ohio 56, Michigan 27

On to the Big One - Michigan 39, Indiana 14

Another week, another rousing victory. Michigan cruises past Indiana 39-14 in the last hurdle before the big one. On this week's episode, we talk a bit about the Wolverines’ win over the Hoosiers and much more about the game that’s been causing us sleepless nights for weeks. We also discuss what Michigan needs to do to beat Ohio, decide what reasonable expectations look like, and wonder what we'd give up for a victory (hint: a lot).

48 MIN2019 NOV 30
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On to the Big One - Michigan 39, Indiana 14

Little Brother - Michigan 44, Michigan State 10

Another week, another rout of a rival. 44-10 Michigan dominates little brother in every phase - in a game that might just be the final blow of the Mark Dantonio era. On this week’s episode we discuss what was possibly the greatest college football Saturday of the past few years, debate whether we’d want Dantonio to stick around for another year, and tip our caps to the evolution of Josh Gattis and Shea Patterson. We also marvel at the abilities of Ronnie Bell, remember Mike Hart, and discuss how Tua's injury shakes up the CFP race.

54 MIN2019 NOV 19
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Little Brother - Michigan 44, Michigan State 10

Nothing to Get Worked Up About - Michigan 38, Maryland 7

Nothing too bad. Nothing too good. Felt about how a Maryland game should. On this week's episode, we discuss what (if anything) we can take away from Michigan's 38-7 win over the Terps, preview basketball season, and debate whether next year's d-line could be better than 2016's. We also preview LSU vs. Bama, figure out Michigan's odds of making the Big Ten championship (they exist), and suggest realistic taglines for the companies whose ads we're forced to watch each Saturday.

43 MIN2019 NOV 6
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Nothing to Get Worked Up About - Michigan 38, Maryland 7

Who's Got it Better Than Us - Michigan 45, Notre Dame 14

Oh what a night. Michigan resurrects its season and quite possibly the Harbaugh era with an emphatic 45-14 beatdown of Notre Dame. On this week's episode we relive a rainy (and joyous) trip to the Big House, decide whether drinking 40s is our new good luck charm, and give props to the students for their towel throwing game. We also wonder about the state of the world in 2033, thank God for Don Brown (and Cam McGrone), and debate whether we have any hope against Ohio.

51 MIN2019 OCT 30
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Who's Got it Better Than Us - Michigan 45, Notre Dame 14

Soul Searching - Penn State 28, Michigan 21

Exhilarating. Excruciating. Encouraging? On this week’s episode, we relive the highs and lows of Michigan's heartbreaking loss to Penn State, discuss the growth of the offense, and lament about the breakdowns defensively. We also lobby for PI reviews in college, decide whether we'd stay a night in the Goodyear blimp, and take a peak at next year.

46 MIN2019 OCT 25
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Soul Searching - Penn State 28, Michigan 21

A Win's a Win - Michigan 42, Illinois 25

Sometimes awesome. Sometimes not so much. Michigan escapes Champaign with a not-so-satisfying 42-25 win that maybe hints of good things to come. On this week's episode, we give midseason grades (hello Uche and Paye), adjust expectations (so maybe Shea's not headed to NYC), and preview Penn State. We also try to make sense of a thrilling week in the broader college football world (should LSU be favored over Bama? is the loser still in the playoff? does Oklahoma control their destiny? can Wisconsin knock off OSU?).

48 MIN2019 OCT 15
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A Win's a Win - Michigan 42, Illinois 25

Tale of Two Sides of the Ball - Michigan 10, Iowa 3

Despite a lackluster performance by the offense that saw zero points and very few big plays after the midpoint of the 1st quarter, Michigan survives Iowa 10-3 on the back of the dominating defense. On this week's episode we tip our hat to Don Brown, discuss the debacle that is the offense, and make guesses about why we didn’t see more deep shots (does Shea get ice cream sundaes for not throwing picks?). We also talk about Rutgers players sitting out the season to hang onto their eligibility, the odds that a Pac-12 team makes the playoff, and this week's pick 'em.

45 MIN2019 OCT 9
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Tale of Two Sides of the Ball - Michigan 10, Iowa 3

Chris Ash Tribute Show

It's hard to tell what larger lessons we can take from it, but Saturday's game was at least enjoyable to watch. On this week's episode, we break down Michigan's 52-0 beatdown of Rutgers, wonder how many wins Will could get as Rutgers' head coach, and ponder how we'd spend $8 million (hard to feel too bad for Chris Ash). We also ask if Josh Gattis is still in control of the offense, tip our cap to Shea and Cam McGrone, and preview Iowa this weekend.

37 MIN2019 OCT 3
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Chris Ash Tribute Show

Don't Make Me Ask the Question

Oof. So that was not fun. On this week's episode, we search in vain for answers to 'what the hell happened' in an all-too-familiar road beatdown against Wisconsin. We also discuss the five stages of grief, theorize at how to salvage the offense, and, reluctantly, ponder the Harbaugh question.

39 MIN2019 SEP 24
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Don't Make Me Ask the Question

Latest Episodes

Do We Have To? Ohio 56, Michigan 27

Predictably distressing. That pretty much sums it up. On this week's episode we're not quite ready to talk about the mishaps of Saturday and instead talk about next year's team, basketball (hooray Juwan!), and the potential of going undefeated into Thanksgiving in 2020. We also pick our conference championship winners and plead with Don Brown to stay in Ann Arbor.

36 MIN2019 DEC 4
Comments
Do We Have To? Ohio 56, Michigan 27

On to the Big One - Michigan 39, Indiana 14

Another week, another rousing victory. Michigan cruises past Indiana 39-14 in the last hurdle before the big one. On this week's episode, we talk a bit about the Wolverines’ win over the Hoosiers and much more about the game that’s been causing us sleepless nights for weeks. We also discuss what Michigan needs to do to beat Ohio, decide what reasonable expectations look like, and wonder what we'd give up for a victory (hint: a lot).

48 MIN2019 NOV 30
Comments
On to the Big One - Michigan 39, Indiana 14

Little Brother - Michigan 44, Michigan State 10

Another week, another rout of a rival. 44-10 Michigan dominates little brother in every phase - in a game that might just be the final blow of the Mark Dantonio era. On this week’s episode we discuss what was possibly the greatest college football Saturday of the past few years, debate whether we’d want Dantonio to stick around for another year, and tip our caps to the evolution of Josh Gattis and Shea Patterson. We also marvel at the abilities of Ronnie Bell, remember Mike Hart, and discuss how Tua's injury shakes up the CFP race.

54 MIN2019 NOV 19
Comments
Little Brother - Michigan 44, Michigan State 10

Nothing to Get Worked Up About - Michigan 38, Maryland 7

Nothing too bad. Nothing too good. Felt about how a Maryland game should. On this week's episode, we discuss what (if anything) we can take away from Michigan's 38-7 win over the Terps, preview basketball season, and debate whether next year's d-line could be better than 2016's. We also preview LSU vs. Bama, figure out Michigan's odds of making the Big Ten championship (they exist), and suggest realistic taglines for the companies whose ads we're forced to watch each Saturday.

43 MIN2019 NOV 6
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Nothing to Get Worked Up About - Michigan 38, Maryland 7

Who's Got it Better Than Us - Michigan 45, Notre Dame 14

Oh what a night. Michigan resurrects its season and quite possibly the Harbaugh era with an emphatic 45-14 beatdown of Notre Dame. On this week's episode we relive a rainy (and joyous) trip to the Big House, decide whether drinking 40s is our new good luck charm, and give props to the students for their towel throwing game. We also wonder about the state of the world in 2033, thank God for Don Brown (and Cam McGrone), and debate whether we have any hope against Ohio.

51 MIN2019 OCT 30
Comments
Who's Got it Better Than Us - Michigan 45, Notre Dame 14

Soul Searching - Penn State 28, Michigan 21

Exhilarating. Excruciating. Encouraging? On this week’s episode, we relive the highs and lows of Michigan's heartbreaking loss to Penn State, discuss the growth of the offense, and lament about the breakdowns defensively. We also lobby for PI reviews in college, decide whether we'd stay a night in the Goodyear blimp, and take a peak at next year.

46 MIN2019 OCT 25
Comments
Soul Searching - Penn State 28, Michigan 21

A Win's a Win - Michigan 42, Illinois 25

Sometimes awesome. Sometimes not so much. Michigan escapes Champaign with a not-so-satisfying 42-25 win that maybe hints of good things to come. On this week's episode, we give midseason grades (hello Uche and Paye), adjust expectations (so maybe Shea's not headed to NYC), and preview Penn State. We also try to make sense of a thrilling week in the broader college football world (should LSU be favored over Bama? is the loser still in the playoff? does Oklahoma control their destiny? can Wisconsin knock off OSU?).

48 MIN2019 OCT 15
Comments
A Win's a Win - Michigan 42, Illinois 25

Tale of Two Sides of the Ball - Michigan 10, Iowa 3

Despite a lackluster performance by the offense that saw zero points and very few big plays after the midpoint of the 1st quarter, Michigan survives Iowa 10-3 on the back of the dominating defense. On this week's episode we tip our hat to Don Brown, discuss the debacle that is the offense, and make guesses about why we didn’t see more deep shots (does Shea get ice cream sundaes for not throwing picks?). We also talk about Rutgers players sitting out the season to hang onto their eligibility, the odds that a Pac-12 team makes the playoff, and this week's pick 'em.

45 MIN2019 OCT 9
Comments
Tale of Two Sides of the Ball - Michigan 10, Iowa 3

Chris Ash Tribute Show

It's hard to tell what larger lessons we can take from it, but Saturday's game was at least enjoyable to watch. On this week's episode, we break down Michigan's 52-0 beatdown of Rutgers, wonder how many wins Will could get as Rutgers' head coach, and ponder how we'd spend $8 million (hard to feel too bad for Chris Ash). We also ask if Josh Gattis is still in control of the offense, tip our cap to Shea and Cam McGrone, and preview Iowa this weekend.

37 MIN2019 OCT 3
Comments
Chris Ash Tribute Show

Don't Make Me Ask the Question

Oof. So that was not fun. On this week's episode, we search in vain for answers to 'what the hell happened' in an all-too-familiar road beatdown against Wisconsin. We also discuss the five stages of grief, theorize at how to salvage the offense, and, reluctantly, ponder the Harbaugh question.

39 MIN2019 SEP 24
Comments
Don't Make Me Ask the Question
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