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In the Unbundled Attorney Mastermind podcast, we interview our provider attorneys and leading experts in the legal industry to identify best practices for fielding internet generated leads. We also discuss how to ethically and effectively offer unbundled legal services and other affordable options in your legal services practice.

Latest Episodes

How Lawyers Can Retain a High Number of New Paying Clients During an Economic Downturn

We are excited to welcome back Anthony Saunders who is a family law attorney from Salt Lake City. Anthony has worked with us for over 7 years and has consistently been the highest converting lawyer in our network. His previous podcast interview(Episode 40) is the most often shared and recommended episode in the history of the show. His client-acquisition strategy begins with this “leading” with limited scope services. Implementing this same approach has fundamentally shifted the way hundreds of lawyers now practice law, and plays a major role in the growth and success of their firms. Today, Anthony gives a comprehensive breakdown of how this approach enables him to consistently enroll 50-80% of his Unbundled leads as paying clients. He describes how he handles the initial phone consultation, and how he eliminates in-office and virtual appointment no-shows. Anthony also shares specific unbundled service options he offers and how he determines what to charge. So grab a pen and paper...

81 MINAPR 23
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How Lawyers Can Retain a High Number of New Paying Clients During an Economic Downturn

Designing the Law Firm of Your Dreams: How to “Lead" with Unbundled Services, Run a Virtual Practice from Anywhere, and Provide Affordable Access to Justice

The San Diego, CA Unbundled Attorney we interview today thought she had found her dream job working for a corporate law firm, but soon discovered it was nothing close to what she had imagined. Fortunately, she had the courage and ambition to leave that firm and build her own practice that would both support her ideal lifestyle, and make a significant difference in the lives of the clients she serves. That commitment set her on a path to design a technology-enabled, virtual practice that allows her to operate from anywhere. Imagine heading down to the beach or park, cracking open your laptop and enrolling new clients over the phone while soaking up the sun. This is the kind of location freedom that she has engineered into her practice, and you can too. During our interview, she shares the systems and technology that make her virtual practice possible. We also discover how she enrolls 99% of her clients for unbundled legal services initially, instead of requiring full representation. ...

84 MIN2019 JUN 24
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Designing the Law Firm of Your Dreams: How to “Lead" with Unbundled Services, Run a Virtual Practice from Anywhere, and Provide Affordable Access to Justice

Streamlining Your Family Law Practice: How to Leverage Legal Technology to Serve Your Clients More Efficiently and Profitably

In the two years since launching his practice in 2016 Bryan Crone has dedicated himself to building a highly efficient and optimized practice. He’s an ambitious guy who is driven to have a significant impact on many people’s lives by engineering his firm to be able to serve a high volume of clients. What makes Bryan truly unique is his investment in learning and implementing legal technology into his practice. He has also been dedicated to learning how to effectively provide unbundled services, which he believes is a key part of bringing his vision to fruition. Bryan’s firm is now on a growth path to double revenues every year, and there are no signs of slowing down. Most importantly, he has put the systems, technology, and team in place that will enable his firm to continue to scale. Today, Bryan joins the show to share the specific systems and technology that enables him to serve a high number of family law clients efficiently and profitably. We identify the exact tools and services he uses, and how they impact daily workflows. We also discuss the creative ways he provides flat rate unbundled services and share some real-life examples of how he delivers them to clients.

93 MIN2019 MAR 15
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Streamlining Your Family Law Practice: How to Leverage Legal Technology to Serve Your Clients More Efficiently and Profitably

The Pioneer of Credit Card Payment Processing for the Legal Industry: How LawPay is Transforming the Way Lawyers Get Paid and Practice Law, with Founder and CEO Amy Porter

It’s easy to forget that when LawPay started in the mid-2000s, few lawyers were accepting credit cards, and for good reason. At that time there wasn’t any way to route credit card funds directly into a lawyer's trust account, which created serious ethical issues. There was also no simple, easy to use platform where lawyers could receive credit card payments online and clients could pay for their services with the click of a button. LawPay changed all of that, and nowadays it’s hard to find a law firm that doesn’t accept credit cards. Today, Founder and CEO Amy Porter joins our show to share the LawPay success story and how LawPay got started. Amy will update us on groundbreaking changes they have pioneered over the past decade that expands the way lawyers accept client payments. We also discuss how the LawPay platform has helped usher in a new era of virtual and digital lawyering, and has enabled lawyers to offer more creative and flexible payment options to make their services ...

48 MIN2019 JAN 14
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The Pioneer of Credit Card Payment Processing for the Legal Industry: How LawPay is Transforming the Way Lawyers Get Paid and Practice Law, with Founder and CEO Amy Porter

How to Make $500-$750 Per Hour Providing Unbundled Legal Services

Dallas, TX attorney Clay Wilkinson’s journey in the practice of law started with a partnership in a law firm, then he became an associate with a large firm, and now he has a new role running his own solo practice. Along the way he has experienced what life is like as a lawyer in these different roles and learned the advantages and disadvantages in each position. Today Clay joins the show and shares the “why” behind each of his decisions, lessons learned, and what finally led to his success as a solo legal practitioner. We take a deep dive into how he has successfully developed unbundled services during his 5+ years as an Unbundled Attorney. Clay shares real-life experiences with clients that involved both uncontested and contested legal cases. He provides a detailed breakdown of how to deliver unbundled services for both kinds of clients, the rates for each, and systems he uses to establish his effective hourly rate at $500-$750 per hour. We also give an overview of the legal tec...

101 MIN2018 NOV 28
Comments
How to Make $500-$750 Per Hour Providing Unbundled Legal Services

Educating a New Generation of Solo Attorneys: The Exciting Future of Legal Incubators and a Practical Overview of the Business Model of Unbundling Legal Services

San Diego, CA attorney, Lee Vernon, is a product of a legal incubator provided by the Thomas Jefferson School of Law. The incubator provided mentoring from attorneys experienced in the practice of law, affordable office space, and the opportunity to collaborate with other attorneys. In addition, Lee was exposed to the concept of unbundled legal services and how it is used to help individuals unable to afford traditional retainer fees. Once Lee launched his solo practice and started working with Unbundled Attorney, he developed a complete business model built around delivering both full representation and unbundled legal services to his clients. Today Lee joins the show to explain why he made the decision to offer unbundled services. He gives an overview of the unbundled service options he provides, the price points for each, as well as the systems and processes he has developed to deliver them efficiently and profitably. Lee also discusses some of the major misconceptions about unbu...

68 MIN2018 JUL 16
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Educating a New Generation of Solo Attorneys: The Exciting Future of Legal Incubators and a Practical Overview of the Business Model of Unbundling Legal Services

How to Instill Confidence, Trust and Loyalty With Your Immigration Clients in a Political Climate Characterized by Fear and Uncertainty

When you hear Charles Lee discuss his immigration practice, it becomes abundantly clear that he takes his role as an attorney and advocate for his immigration clients very seriously. Recent changes in our immigration laws and the political climate created by a new administration have introduced a great deal of fear and uncertainty in the hearts and minds of immigrants in the United States. Today Charles joins the show and talks about how he has successfully adapted his practice to overcome these challenges. He also shares some of the beliefs and values that have become the foundation of his practice, and how he communicates them to his clients to win their confidence and trust. We also discuss the legal technology and flexible payment options that enable him to make his services more affordable and profitable.

45 MIN2018 JUN 7
Comments
How to Instill Confidence, Trust and Loyalty With Your Immigration Clients in a Political Climate Characterized by Fear and Uncertainty

Earning 7 Figures a Year Serving Lower Income Families by Delivering Unbundled Legal Services

Ardy Pirnia and John Ibrahim are Beverly Hills and Orange County, California family law and personal injury lawyers. You’d expect firms from their regions to be charging high end retainer fees of between $5000 - $10,000+ and hourly rates of $350/hour and more. Instead, Ardy and John have built highly profitable practices offering unbundled and limited scope services with starting fees ranging from as low as $500 - $1500. Today they join the show to share the types of unbundled service options they offer, and when and how they deliver them. They explain why they believe unbundled services give more people access to legal help who otherwise couldn’t afford it, and why offering these options has been a very profitable business decision.

62 MIN2018 MAY 11
Comments
Earning 7 Figures a Year Serving Lower Income Families by Delivering Unbundled Legal Services

How to Effectively Promote Your Legal Brand Online and Systematically Scale Your Practice

Jacob Sapochnick is a San Diego immigration attorney who has created a highly successful online legal brand. He has over 140,000 followers on Facebook, thousands of subscribers on YouTube, and receives invitations regularly to appear on national media. He has become an expert on how to position and promote your firm and its content on the internet effectively. Today, Jacob joins us to share exactly how he has built his massive following, and what he does day to day to curate content, and distribute it in a way that captures new clients. We also discuss how he effectively manages a high volume of new clients by leveraging his staff which includes 6 attorneys, 15 support staff, and cutting edge legal technology. He shares a number of ways you can systematically scale your practice, such as creating video training modules that show your team how to execute their tasks and processes efficiently.

57 MIN2018 APR 12
Comments
How to Effectively Promote Your Legal Brand Online and Systematically Scale Your Practice

A Comprehensive Breakdown of the Benefits and Ethical Considerations for Providing Unbundled Legal Services in Immigration and Family Law

We are excited to announce the release of our first video podcast episode! We traveled to Seattle, WA recently to film this interview with Sou Bounlutay and Sunny Awla. Both Sou and Sunny are successful Unbundled Attorneys who have a great deal of experience providing unbundled legal services in the immigration and family law space. They share an informed overview of the ethical considerations for unbundling services in immigration law. They identify the types of cases their office offers unbundled services for and which ones they don’t. They also discuss how unbundling their legal services has positively impacted their practice, and why they are now strong advocates for the unbundled legal services model. They share why it is critical to have a consistent source of quality prospective clients, especially for solo and small firms, and the important role Unbundled Attorney has played in the development of their own practice.

89 MIN2018 MAR 16
Comments
A Comprehensive Breakdown of the Benefits and Ethical Considerations for Providing Unbundled Legal Services in Immigration and Family Law

Latest Episodes

How Lawyers Can Retain a High Number of New Paying Clients During an Economic Downturn

We are excited to welcome back Anthony Saunders who is a family law attorney from Salt Lake City. Anthony has worked with us for over 7 years and has consistently been the highest converting lawyer in our network. His previous podcast interview(Episode 40) is the most often shared and recommended episode in the history of the show. His client-acquisition strategy begins with this “leading” with limited scope services. Implementing this same approach has fundamentally shifted the way hundreds of lawyers now practice law, and plays a major role in the growth and success of their firms. Today, Anthony gives a comprehensive breakdown of how this approach enables him to consistently enroll 50-80% of his Unbundled leads as paying clients. He describes how he handles the initial phone consultation, and how he eliminates in-office and virtual appointment no-shows. Anthony also shares specific unbundled service options he offers and how he determines what to charge. So grab a pen and paper...

81 MINAPR 23
Comments
How Lawyers Can Retain a High Number of New Paying Clients During an Economic Downturn

Designing the Law Firm of Your Dreams: How to “Lead" with Unbundled Services, Run a Virtual Practice from Anywhere, and Provide Affordable Access to Justice

The San Diego, CA Unbundled Attorney we interview today thought she had found her dream job working for a corporate law firm, but soon discovered it was nothing close to what she had imagined. Fortunately, she had the courage and ambition to leave that firm and build her own practice that would both support her ideal lifestyle, and make a significant difference in the lives of the clients she serves. That commitment set her on a path to design a technology-enabled, virtual practice that allows her to operate from anywhere. Imagine heading down to the beach or park, cracking open your laptop and enrolling new clients over the phone while soaking up the sun. This is the kind of location freedom that she has engineered into her practice, and you can too. During our interview, she shares the systems and technology that make her virtual practice possible. We also discover how she enrolls 99% of her clients for unbundled legal services initially, instead of requiring full representation. ...

84 MIN2019 JUN 24
Comments
Designing the Law Firm of Your Dreams: How to “Lead" with Unbundled Services, Run a Virtual Practice from Anywhere, and Provide Affordable Access to Justice

Streamlining Your Family Law Practice: How to Leverage Legal Technology to Serve Your Clients More Efficiently and Profitably

In the two years since launching his practice in 2016 Bryan Crone has dedicated himself to building a highly efficient and optimized practice. He’s an ambitious guy who is driven to have a significant impact on many people’s lives by engineering his firm to be able to serve a high volume of clients. What makes Bryan truly unique is his investment in learning and implementing legal technology into his practice. He has also been dedicated to learning how to effectively provide unbundled services, which he believes is a key part of bringing his vision to fruition. Bryan’s firm is now on a growth path to double revenues every year, and there are no signs of slowing down. Most importantly, he has put the systems, technology, and team in place that will enable his firm to continue to scale. Today, Bryan joins the show to share the specific systems and technology that enables him to serve a high number of family law clients efficiently and profitably. We identify the exact tools and services he uses, and how they impact daily workflows. We also discuss the creative ways he provides flat rate unbundled services and share some real-life examples of how he delivers them to clients.

93 MIN2019 MAR 15
Comments
Streamlining Your Family Law Practice: How to Leverage Legal Technology to Serve Your Clients More Efficiently and Profitably

The Pioneer of Credit Card Payment Processing for the Legal Industry: How LawPay is Transforming the Way Lawyers Get Paid and Practice Law, with Founder and CEO Amy Porter

It’s easy to forget that when LawPay started in the mid-2000s, few lawyers were accepting credit cards, and for good reason. At that time there wasn’t any way to route credit card funds directly into a lawyer's trust account, which created serious ethical issues. There was also no simple, easy to use platform where lawyers could receive credit card payments online and clients could pay for their services with the click of a button. LawPay changed all of that, and nowadays it’s hard to find a law firm that doesn’t accept credit cards. Today, Founder and CEO Amy Porter joins our show to share the LawPay success story and how LawPay got started. Amy will update us on groundbreaking changes they have pioneered over the past decade that expands the way lawyers accept client payments. We also discuss how the LawPay platform has helped usher in a new era of virtual and digital lawyering, and has enabled lawyers to offer more creative and flexible payment options to make their services ...

48 MIN2019 JAN 14
Comments
The Pioneer of Credit Card Payment Processing for the Legal Industry: How LawPay is Transforming the Way Lawyers Get Paid and Practice Law, with Founder and CEO Amy Porter

How to Make $500-$750 Per Hour Providing Unbundled Legal Services

Dallas, TX attorney Clay Wilkinson’s journey in the practice of law started with a partnership in a law firm, then he became an associate with a large firm, and now he has a new role running his own solo practice. Along the way he has experienced what life is like as a lawyer in these different roles and learned the advantages and disadvantages in each position. Today Clay joins the show and shares the “why” behind each of his decisions, lessons learned, and what finally led to his success as a solo legal practitioner. We take a deep dive into how he has successfully developed unbundled services during his 5+ years as an Unbundled Attorney. Clay shares real-life experiences with clients that involved both uncontested and contested legal cases. He provides a detailed breakdown of how to deliver unbundled services for both kinds of clients, the rates for each, and systems he uses to establish his effective hourly rate at $500-$750 per hour. We also give an overview of the legal tec...

101 MIN2018 NOV 28
Comments
How to Make $500-$750 Per Hour Providing Unbundled Legal Services

Educating a New Generation of Solo Attorneys: The Exciting Future of Legal Incubators and a Practical Overview of the Business Model of Unbundling Legal Services

San Diego, CA attorney, Lee Vernon, is a product of a legal incubator provided by the Thomas Jefferson School of Law. The incubator provided mentoring from attorneys experienced in the practice of law, affordable office space, and the opportunity to collaborate with other attorneys. In addition, Lee was exposed to the concept of unbundled legal services and how it is used to help individuals unable to afford traditional retainer fees. Once Lee launched his solo practice and started working with Unbundled Attorney, he developed a complete business model built around delivering both full representation and unbundled legal services to his clients. Today Lee joins the show to explain why he made the decision to offer unbundled services. He gives an overview of the unbundled service options he provides, the price points for each, as well as the systems and processes he has developed to deliver them efficiently and profitably. Lee also discusses some of the major misconceptions about unbu...

68 MIN2018 JUL 16
Comments
Educating a New Generation of Solo Attorneys: The Exciting Future of Legal Incubators and a Practical Overview of the Business Model of Unbundling Legal Services

How to Instill Confidence, Trust and Loyalty With Your Immigration Clients in a Political Climate Characterized by Fear and Uncertainty

When you hear Charles Lee discuss his immigration practice, it becomes abundantly clear that he takes his role as an attorney and advocate for his immigration clients very seriously. Recent changes in our immigration laws and the political climate created by a new administration have introduced a great deal of fear and uncertainty in the hearts and minds of immigrants in the United States. Today Charles joins the show and talks about how he has successfully adapted his practice to overcome these challenges. He also shares some of the beliefs and values that have become the foundation of his practice, and how he communicates them to his clients to win their confidence and trust. We also discuss the legal technology and flexible payment options that enable him to make his services more affordable and profitable.

45 MIN2018 JUN 7
Comments
How to Instill Confidence, Trust and Loyalty With Your Immigration Clients in a Political Climate Characterized by Fear and Uncertainty

Earning 7 Figures a Year Serving Lower Income Families by Delivering Unbundled Legal Services

Ardy Pirnia and John Ibrahim are Beverly Hills and Orange County, California family law and personal injury lawyers. You’d expect firms from their regions to be charging high end retainer fees of between $5000 - $10,000+ and hourly rates of $350/hour and more. Instead, Ardy and John have built highly profitable practices offering unbundled and limited scope services with starting fees ranging from as low as $500 - $1500. Today they join the show to share the types of unbundled service options they offer, and when and how they deliver them. They explain why they believe unbundled services give more people access to legal help who otherwise couldn’t afford it, and why offering these options has been a very profitable business decision.

62 MIN2018 MAY 11
Comments
Earning 7 Figures a Year Serving Lower Income Families by Delivering Unbundled Legal Services

How to Effectively Promote Your Legal Brand Online and Systematically Scale Your Practice

Jacob Sapochnick is a San Diego immigration attorney who has created a highly successful online legal brand. He has over 140,000 followers on Facebook, thousands of subscribers on YouTube, and receives invitations regularly to appear on national media. He has become an expert on how to position and promote your firm and its content on the internet effectively. Today, Jacob joins us to share exactly how he has built his massive following, and what he does day to day to curate content, and distribute it in a way that captures new clients. We also discuss how he effectively manages a high volume of new clients by leveraging his staff which includes 6 attorneys, 15 support staff, and cutting edge legal technology. He shares a number of ways you can systematically scale your practice, such as creating video training modules that show your team how to execute their tasks and processes efficiently.

57 MIN2018 APR 12
Comments
How to Effectively Promote Your Legal Brand Online and Systematically Scale Your Practice

A Comprehensive Breakdown of the Benefits and Ethical Considerations for Providing Unbundled Legal Services in Immigration and Family Law

We are excited to announce the release of our first video podcast episode! We traveled to Seattle, WA recently to film this interview with Sou Bounlutay and Sunny Awla. Both Sou and Sunny are successful Unbundled Attorneys who have a great deal of experience providing unbundled legal services in the immigration and family law space. They share an informed overview of the ethical considerations for unbundling services in immigration law. They identify the types of cases their office offers unbundled services for and which ones they don’t. They also discuss how unbundling their legal services has positively impacted their practice, and why they are now strong advocates for the unbundled legal services model. They share why it is critical to have a consistent source of quality prospective clients, especially for solo and small firms, and the important role Unbundled Attorney has played in the development of their own practice.

89 MIN2018 MAR 16
Comments
A Comprehensive Breakdown of the Benefits and Ethical Considerations for Providing Unbundled Legal Services in Immigration and Family Law
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