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Hole in the Whole

Yana Afanasieva and Tom Debus

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Hole in the Whole
29 min2020 AUG 17
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Does your lifestyle choice promote business growth, or is it in conflict with your business objectives? Listen, as Yana and Tom discuss the suggestion that if a business hasn't grown and reached a certain level, it is viewed as a lifestyle choice of the founder. Yana believes that you can only prioritize your lifestyle if you use your time wisely and focus on the right things, and Tom agrees to a point. Do you agree? 

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Today's Episode:

  • [00:24] Hello, everybody!
  • [00:34] Yana shares the topic of this conversation.
  • [01:02] Yana says that some suggest that If a business hasn't grown and reached a certain level, it is viewed as a lifestyle choice of the founder.
  • [02:04] Tom believes that the focus on growth will be a thing of the past.
  • [02:48] Yana says she doesn't know where this comes from, most people she knows don't have a lifestyle she would strive for.
  • [03:52] Tom says that fintech should be able to appreciate more balanced business models.
  • [04:38] Yana speaks about some startups she knows that are still grinding for success; they haven't been able to focus on lifestyle.
  • [06:38] Tom believes the question for balance versus grind is difficult to tip in one direction.
  • [07:42] Yana agrees with Tom's insights into this balance.
  • [10:34] Tom shares a book he has been reading.
  • [13:06] Tom discusses the book's description of needs inside of a framework.
  • [14:33] Yana says she can see why Tom likes the book because it is so confusing.
  • [16:48] Yana speaks about adapting the framework in the book.
  • [18:54] Tom believes that a business is there to make money and succeed and grow.
  • [21:16] Yana shares a story about a founder that asked her for feedback.
  • [23:34] Tom says there is a workaround for just about everything, which is a hard lesson for engineers.
  • [26:34] Yana speaks about times when her engineers didn't listen to what she was trying to tell them.
  • [27:28] Yana wants to end this with prioritizing lifestyle is only possible if you use your time wisely and focus on the right things.
  • [28:44] Tom and Yana are eager to hear your lifestyle choices and how they either promote business growth or conflict with business objectives.
  • [29:35] Thank you for listening. Bye for now!

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