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Conspiracy Geeks Podcast

Agents Jeff and Eddie

Conspiracy Geeks Podcast
71 min2019 APR 14
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1987, Florida rapist Tommie Lee Andrews became the first person in the U.S. to be convicted as a result of DNA evidence. In 1995 despite mountains of circumstantial and physical evidence O.J. Simpson was found not guilty in the murders of his ex-wife Nicole Simpson and Ronald Goldman.

The clear DNA evidence failed to convict him of the murders. It has been reported many times that the juvenile age of DNA evidence and the prosecutions failure to have experts explain it lead to the disregard of the scientific proof of Simpson's proximity to the crime and choosing “if the glove doesn’t fit you must acquit” defense.

It seems in today’s world you cannot even consider a guilty verdict without the presence of DNA evidence. The recent DNA based arrest of California’s Golden State Killer after 40 years at large is a testament to how far DNA technology has come in just a short 32 years since it first was used to secure its first conviction. Today we are going to go through a case that has been credited partially with leading the way for the DNA technology that leads to the Golden State Killer’s arrest.


When someone goes missing it is assumed that someone somewhere is going to report it to the police, the media, and whoever will listen and give them a chance at locating the loved one that has gone missing. We see the tragic stories of missing almost everywhere we look.

When a person disappears it just seems like the names and story of that person will be made public and law enforcement knowledge. So when a woman and 3 children went missing sometime in the early 1980s. The only reason we know of their absence from the world is the discovery of their corpses.

Despite widespread news media and police efforts to identify them, nobody comes forward or can help in the identification of the four undeserving victims of obvious violent ends we must stop and consider, what the hell is happening? What happened following the 1985 discovery of a barrel with the remains of a woman and child lead to a 30-year epic that still is leaving many unanswered questions that may never be answered.

Allenstown, New Hampshire is in Merrimack County in the southeast portion of the state. Its current population is about 4,322. As it is now it was in the 1980s a very close-knit community where everyone knows everyone else.

Bear Brook State Park cuts through the heart of the Allenstown mapped area. The State Park is about 10,000 acres in size and is the largest developed state park in the state of New Hampshire.

Summer 1985: local youth Jesse Morgan and friends kick over a barrel in the woods near Bear Brook State Park. He said it “smelled like rotten milk”