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Sounds like MLM but ok

Sasha Zazzi

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Sounds like MLM but ok

Sounds like MLM but ok

Sasha Zazzi

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The only podcast dedicated to discussing the predatory & dangerous business practices behind Multi Level Marketing - MLM, the sugarcoated term for "pyramid scheme." We'll be bringing you quality snark, expert guest hosts, & damning evidence that will only make you say YIKES. New episodes each Monday. Subscribe on the platform of your choice - and don't worry, we won't harass you to join our team, call you "hun," or imply you need to lose that baby weight. #antimlmmovement 🚫🔺Listen, laugh, and become part of the anti-MLM movement.Transcripts, as soon as they are available, can be found here: http://bit.ly/2GiA5O4

Latest Episodes

Oh, Hello! I Didn't See You There!

Is that you? You startled me! I'm Sasha, you might remember me as "the showrunner" from such podcasts as Sounds like MLM but ok, Christmas Ape, and Christmas Ape Goes to Summer Camp! Sasha talks about the future of this channel that you're subscribed to. Hang in there, dudes, dudettes, and dudenbies, and listen. bullshitjamboree.com slmlmbutok.com @sashazazzi @bullshitjamboree

9 minAUG 12
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Oh, Hello! I Didn't See You There!

Was Volo Doing Yoga? Cuz They Were Stretching

We're baaaack, revisiting and updating you on Volo, the spiritual MLM that happened to be our first episode in 2018. What happened to it? Did they really change the lives of one billion people through yoga videos and encouraging people to throw out their antidepressants? Katie Young and Sasha Zazzi gain insight into the most spiritual of Kirby Vacuum Cleaner salesmen, and Jack of All Fails, founder Sean Spencer. Produced by Sasha Zazzi IT and Technical Development provided by PodcastDaddy Advisory Members: Summer Sanders, Ashleigh Walls, Jessica Andrews, Holly Norris, and Caroline Thompson Visit our website atslmlmbutok.comfor the rest of our social media information, Patreon, and merch! Reach out to us:podcast@slmlmbutok.com Find us on social media: Facebook group -Sounds like MLM but ok (-ay) Facebook page -Sounds like MLM but ok podcast Twitter:@SLMLMbutok Instagram:@SLMLMbutok Youtube:soundslikemlmbutok Follow our Twitters! Katie:@MLMRiot Sasha:@sashazazzi ALWAYS READ THE FINE P...

45 min2019 JUN 1
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Was Volo Doing Yoga? Cuz They Were Stretching

Sex, Lies, and MLM

Happy VERY LATE Valentine's Day, when all your candy is 50% off (and maybe your flowers are dead). We intended for this episode to come out on February 13th, but the amount of technical difficulties was almost like a farce! Sit-com city, here we come! Katie and Sasha discuss the underbelly of some very, uh, "sexy" MLMs that have failed under a sleazy CEO. This episode is 18+. HUGE SHOUT OUT TO SARA RISI!Thank you for being a true peach of a fan by donating to our Patreon, and make sure you listen to the end! Produced by Sasha Zazzi IT and Technical Development provided by PodcastDaddy Advisory Members: Summer Sanders, Ashleigh Walls, Jessica Andrews, Holly Norris, and Caroline Thompson Visit our website atslmlmbutok.comfor the rest of our social media information, Patreon, and merch! Reach out to us:podcast@slmlmbutok.com Find us on social media: Facebook group -Sounds like MLM but ok (-ay) Facebook page -Sounds like MLM but ok podcast Twitter:@SLMLMbutok Instagram:@SLMLMbutok Youtu...

88 min2019 FEB 23
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Sex, Lies, and MLM

Lularoe's "Bless" of Death: The End of an Alleged Criminal Empire?

Please visit our website at slmlmbutok.com! SPECIAL EDITION EPISODE Sasha Zazzi and Katie Young have put together a HUGE episode compiling all lawsuits currently against Lularoe with Becca Peter. Then we get into the nitty gritty of the complaint filed by the Washington Attorney General alleging Lularoe is... a pyramid scheme?! (Well, we'll be damned!) We finish off the episode with Sasha and Lularoe Defective Admin Heather Blithely critically analyzing Lularoe founder Deanne Stidham's tacky and poorly timed "masquerade" ball for her 60th birthday - the day after the pyramid scheme law suit was filed. This episode goes above and beyond explaining the hot water LLR is in. We've spent hours consulting people, reading articles, recording, and editing. Make sure you listen to the episode ALL THE WAY to the end! Sasha made the outro music particularly relevant. HUGE THANK YOU to BECCA PETER and HEATHER BLITHELY for their research and opinions. Please join the new defective Facebook group...

184 min2019 JAN 31
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Lularoe's "Bless" of Death: The End of an Alleged Criminal Empire?

"Wachter's" By The Shore

Season 3 is OFFICIALLY HERE! Get your earholes ready because we're going UNDER THE SEA! (Please avoid getting swimmer's ear, though, and definitely do not pet the dolphins.) Katie Young and Sasha Zazzi present: Wachter's, the first MLM. We talk about sea! We talk about land! We talk about how you are a walking ocean! Get ready for the motion of the ocean and some punny sea jokes. Music: Intro - Ryan Little "Kick, Push" Bumper #1: Milk & Bone "Coconut Water" Bumper #2: Guantanamo Baywatch "Barbacoa" Outro: Shannon & the Clams "Ozmo" Produced by Sasha Zazzi IT and Technical Development provided by PodcastDaddy Advisory Members: Summer Sanders, Ashleigh Walls, Jessica Andrews, and Caroline Thompson Visit our website atslmlmbutok.comfor the rest of our social media information, Patreon, and merch! Reach out to us:podcast@slmlmbutok.com Find us on social media: Facebook group -Sounds like MLM but ok (-ay) Facebook page -Sounds like MLM but ok podcast Twitter:@SLMLMbutok Instagram:@SLMLMb...

62 min2019 JAN 24
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"Wachter's" By The Shore

Hark! The Herald Pyr'mid Scheme

It's a Festivus Miracle! While you're finishing up dinner, throwing wrapping paper away, avoiding your in-laws by hiding out in the bathroom, and dreading the traffic on the drive back - we have a last minute present for you! Here's our Holiday Bonanza episode! Usually we give you a synopsis, but not today. It's a surprise you have to unwrap with your earholes. (Also Katie and Sasha made donations in your name to the Human Fund.) Intro: Billy May - Rudolph Cha Cha Bumper 1: Christmas in the Stars title track (full album here for your, uh, enjoyment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jzo4QDfJhvA&list=PL48kxp7t6vm9yFz9Dd0oVzCaiKflKvAgz) Bumper 2: Capitol City Orchestra - Cha Cha All the Way Bumper 3: Eddie Dunsteder - Mommy Kissing Santa Claus Bumper 4: Al Caiola and Riz Ortolani - Holiday on Skis Outro: RUN-DMC - Christmas in Hollis Produced by Sasha Zazzi IT and Technical Development provided by PodcastDaddy Advisory Members: Summer Sanders & Ashleigh Walls Visit our website atslmlmbut...

67 min2018 DEC 26
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Hark! The Herald Pyr'mid Scheme

Herbalies: An Interview with Julie Contreras, Featured Advocate in "Betting On Zero"

Happy Thanksgiving! Got a turkey to cook? Put this on in the background. Got to hit the road to see family? You know you're going to be stuck in traffic forever, so pass the time with SLMLMbutok! Sasha and Katie sit down with special guest Julie Contreras who is the commissioner of League of United Latin American Citizens of Illinois’ Immigrant Affairs Commission. She is one of the most outspoken advocates protecting the Latinx community from being exploited by Herbalife. "Betting on Zero", the critically acclaimed and award-winning documentary that uncovers the controversy over both the short and Herbalife's business practices, highlights her quest for reparations and justice. Produced by Sasha Zazzi IT and Technical Development provided by PodcastDaddy Advisory Members: Summer Sanders & Ashleigh Walls Visit our website at slmlmbutok.com for the rest of our social media information, Patreon, and merch! Need holiday gifts? We got the shop stocked with more to come! Just Say No shir...

57 min2018 NOV 22
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Herbalies: An Interview with Julie Contreras, Featured Advocate in "Betting On Zero"

Ding Dong! Avon's Falling, er, Avon Calling

Hello, hello, listeners! We missed a week but here we are, ringing your doorbell and knocking on your door like the Avon Lady - well, not exactly like her, because we're bringing this podcast to you instead of make up. This week Katie and Sasha talk about the iconic Avon Lady, their once brilliant advertising, why Avon is crashing (especially in Australia!), and why every seems to love that damn Skin So Soft. (Can we never utter the name of that product again? Please?) Intro - Ryan Little "Kick Push" Bumper 1 - Lonely Island ft Kal Penn "Avon Lady" Bumper 2 - The Feederz - "Avon Lady" Outro - Baby Ray "Sadie, the Avon Lady" Cringy Avon Songs and Dances: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1OrPkwQTdo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z054cjKrrZA Produced by Sasha Zazzi IT and Technical Development provided by PodcastDaddy Advisory Members: Summer Sanders & Ashleigh Walls Our NEW website! Donate to our Patreon (we've got great rewards!) or buy some merch. BOOMER MERCH IS COMING, IF NOT ALR...

80 min2018 NOV 15
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Ding Dong! Avon's Falling, er, Avon Calling

Tales from the Pyramid: Halloween and Hollow Schemes

Good evening, boils and ghouls! Hope you are having the time of your LIFE on Halloween because the terrifying content of these stories will make you want to DIE. We certainly got this out on the WITCHING HOUR for all you creepsters staying up late and turning off the porch light. Well kiddies, we've got some content for you. Katie is mysteriously GONE this week, so Summer Sanders, podcast advisor, guest hosts with Sasha, Mistress Host of the Dark, to tell you ALL about the TERRIFYING world of multi-level marketing. Lularoe? Aliens? Lubricant? It's all there. Turn off the lights and grab some headphones - and better get some sleeping pills for the inevitable nightmares you'll have tonight - these pyramids are haunted. The truth is out there, and SLMLMbutok has it. Listening to this after Halloween night? Just because Halloween is one night a year, doesn't mean the spooky and scary things go away! Pleasant screams. Produced by Sasha Zazzi IT and Technical Development provided by Podca...

90 min2018 NOV 1
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Tales from the Pyramid: Halloween and Hollow Schemes

They've Got the Pyramid Schemes, but We've Got the Guillotines

Today Sasha and Katie get POLITICAL! We air our grivences about what's going on in Congress and the White House, HR 3409, and Trump's involvement with a couple MLMs. Listeners, we are all PIONEERS in this fairly new advocacy movement, and we need to RISE UP and stop this administration from allowing the FTC to relax any of its MLM or pyramid scheme laws. This is a very informative episode and WE NEED YOUR HELP in stopping this from happening. They got the pyramid schemes, but we got the guillotine. Off with their heads! Produced by Sasha Zazzi IT and Technical Development provided by PDaddy Advisory Members: Summer Sanders & Ashleigh Walls Our NEW website! Donate to our Patreon (we've got great rewards!) or buy some merch. BOOMER MERCH IS COMING, IF NOT ALREADY OUT BY THE TIME THIS EPISODE DROPS. This is our new hub - you can find all of our social media here, too: slmlmbutok.com Reach out to us: podcast@slmlmbutok.com Find us on social media: Facebook group - Sounds like MLM but ok...

116 min2018 OCT 21
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They've Got the Pyramid Schemes, but We've Got the Guillotines

Latest Episodes

Oh, Hello! I Didn't See You There!

Is that you? You startled me! I'm Sasha, you might remember me as "the showrunner" from such podcasts as Sounds like MLM but ok, Christmas Ape, and Christmas Ape Goes to Summer Camp! Sasha talks about the future of this channel that you're subscribed to. Hang in there, dudes, dudettes, and dudenbies, and listen. bullshitjamboree.com slmlmbutok.com @sashazazzi @bullshitjamboree

9 minAUG 12
Comments
Oh, Hello! I Didn't See You There!

Was Volo Doing Yoga? Cuz They Were Stretching

We're baaaack, revisiting and updating you on Volo, the spiritual MLM that happened to be our first episode in 2018. What happened to it? Did they really change the lives of one billion people through yoga videos and encouraging people to throw out their antidepressants? Katie Young and Sasha Zazzi gain insight into the most spiritual of Kirby Vacuum Cleaner salesmen, and Jack of All Fails, founder Sean Spencer. Produced by Sasha Zazzi IT and Technical Development provided by PodcastDaddy Advisory Members: Summer Sanders, Ashleigh Walls, Jessica Andrews, Holly Norris, and Caroline Thompson Visit our website atslmlmbutok.comfor the rest of our social media information, Patreon, and merch! Reach out to us:podcast@slmlmbutok.com Find us on social media: Facebook group -Sounds like MLM but ok (-ay) Facebook page -Sounds like MLM but ok podcast Twitter:@SLMLMbutok Instagram:@SLMLMbutok Youtube:soundslikemlmbutok Follow our Twitters! Katie:@MLMRiot Sasha:@sashazazzi ALWAYS READ THE FINE P...

45 min2019 JUN 1
Comments
Was Volo Doing Yoga? Cuz They Were Stretching

Sex, Lies, and MLM

Happy VERY LATE Valentine's Day, when all your candy is 50% off (and maybe your flowers are dead). We intended for this episode to come out on February 13th, but the amount of technical difficulties was almost like a farce! Sit-com city, here we come! Katie and Sasha discuss the underbelly of some very, uh, "sexy" MLMs that have failed under a sleazy CEO. This episode is 18+. HUGE SHOUT OUT TO SARA RISI!Thank you for being a true peach of a fan by donating to our Patreon, and make sure you listen to the end! Produced by Sasha Zazzi IT and Technical Development provided by PodcastDaddy Advisory Members: Summer Sanders, Ashleigh Walls, Jessica Andrews, Holly Norris, and Caroline Thompson Visit our website atslmlmbutok.comfor the rest of our social media information, Patreon, and merch! Reach out to us:podcast@slmlmbutok.com Find us on social media: Facebook group -Sounds like MLM but ok (-ay) Facebook page -Sounds like MLM but ok podcast Twitter:@SLMLMbutok Instagram:@SLMLMbutok Youtu...

88 min2019 FEB 23
Comments
Sex, Lies, and MLM

Lularoe's "Bless" of Death: The End of an Alleged Criminal Empire?

Please visit our website at slmlmbutok.com! SPECIAL EDITION EPISODE Sasha Zazzi and Katie Young have put together a HUGE episode compiling all lawsuits currently against Lularoe with Becca Peter. Then we get into the nitty gritty of the complaint filed by the Washington Attorney General alleging Lularoe is... a pyramid scheme?! (Well, we'll be damned!) We finish off the episode with Sasha and Lularoe Defective Admin Heather Blithely critically analyzing Lularoe founder Deanne Stidham's tacky and poorly timed "masquerade" ball for her 60th birthday - the day after the pyramid scheme law suit was filed. This episode goes above and beyond explaining the hot water LLR is in. We've spent hours consulting people, reading articles, recording, and editing. Make sure you listen to the episode ALL THE WAY to the end! Sasha made the outro music particularly relevant. HUGE THANK YOU to BECCA PETER and HEATHER BLITHELY for their research and opinions. Please join the new defective Facebook group...

184 min2019 JAN 31
Comments
Lularoe's "Bless" of Death: The End of an Alleged Criminal Empire?

"Wachter's" By The Shore

Season 3 is OFFICIALLY HERE! Get your earholes ready because we're going UNDER THE SEA! (Please avoid getting swimmer's ear, though, and definitely do not pet the dolphins.) Katie Young and Sasha Zazzi present: Wachter's, the first MLM. We talk about sea! We talk about land! We talk about how you are a walking ocean! Get ready for the motion of the ocean and some punny sea jokes. Music: Intro - Ryan Little "Kick, Push" Bumper #1: Milk & Bone "Coconut Water" Bumper #2: Guantanamo Baywatch "Barbacoa" Outro: Shannon & the Clams "Ozmo" Produced by Sasha Zazzi IT and Technical Development provided by PodcastDaddy Advisory Members: Summer Sanders, Ashleigh Walls, Jessica Andrews, and Caroline Thompson Visit our website atslmlmbutok.comfor the rest of our social media information, Patreon, and merch! Reach out to us:podcast@slmlmbutok.com Find us on social media: Facebook group -Sounds like MLM but ok (-ay) Facebook page -Sounds like MLM but ok podcast Twitter:@SLMLMbutok Instagram:@SLMLMb...

62 min2019 JAN 24
Comments
"Wachter's" By The Shore

Hark! The Herald Pyr'mid Scheme

It's a Festivus Miracle! While you're finishing up dinner, throwing wrapping paper away, avoiding your in-laws by hiding out in the bathroom, and dreading the traffic on the drive back - we have a last minute present for you! Here's our Holiday Bonanza episode! Usually we give you a synopsis, but not today. It's a surprise you have to unwrap with your earholes. (Also Katie and Sasha made donations in your name to the Human Fund.) Intro: Billy May - Rudolph Cha Cha Bumper 1: Christmas in the Stars title track (full album here for your, uh, enjoyment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jzo4QDfJhvA&list=PL48kxp7t6vm9yFz9Dd0oVzCaiKflKvAgz) Bumper 2: Capitol City Orchestra - Cha Cha All the Way Bumper 3: Eddie Dunsteder - Mommy Kissing Santa Claus Bumper 4: Al Caiola and Riz Ortolani - Holiday on Skis Outro: RUN-DMC - Christmas in Hollis Produced by Sasha Zazzi IT and Technical Development provided by PodcastDaddy Advisory Members: Summer Sanders & Ashleigh Walls Visit our website atslmlmbut...

67 min2018 DEC 26
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Hark! The Herald Pyr'mid Scheme

Herbalies: An Interview with Julie Contreras, Featured Advocate in "Betting On Zero"

Happy Thanksgiving! Got a turkey to cook? Put this on in the background. Got to hit the road to see family? You know you're going to be stuck in traffic forever, so pass the time with SLMLMbutok! Sasha and Katie sit down with special guest Julie Contreras who is the commissioner of League of United Latin American Citizens of Illinois’ Immigrant Affairs Commission. She is one of the most outspoken advocates protecting the Latinx community from being exploited by Herbalife. "Betting on Zero", the critically acclaimed and award-winning documentary that uncovers the controversy over both the short and Herbalife's business practices, highlights her quest for reparations and justice. Produced by Sasha Zazzi IT and Technical Development provided by PodcastDaddy Advisory Members: Summer Sanders & Ashleigh Walls Visit our website at slmlmbutok.com for the rest of our social media information, Patreon, and merch! Need holiday gifts? We got the shop stocked with more to come! Just Say No shir...

57 min2018 NOV 22
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Herbalies: An Interview with Julie Contreras, Featured Advocate in "Betting On Zero"

Ding Dong! Avon's Falling, er, Avon Calling

Hello, hello, listeners! We missed a week but here we are, ringing your doorbell and knocking on your door like the Avon Lady - well, not exactly like her, because we're bringing this podcast to you instead of make up. This week Katie and Sasha talk about the iconic Avon Lady, their once brilliant advertising, why Avon is crashing (especially in Australia!), and why every seems to love that damn Skin So Soft. (Can we never utter the name of that product again? Please?) Intro - Ryan Little "Kick Push" Bumper 1 - Lonely Island ft Kal Penn "Avon Lady" Bumper 2 - The Feederz - "Avon Lady" Outro - Baby Ray "Sadie, the Avon Lady" Cringy Avon Songs and Dances: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1OrPkwQTdo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z054cjKrrZA Produced by Sasha Zazzi IT and Technical Development provided by PodcastDaddy Advisory Members: Summer Sanders & Ashleigh Walls Our NEW website! Donate to our Patreon (we've got great rewards!) or buy some merch. BOOMER MERCH IS COMING, IF NOT ALR...

80 min2018 NOV 15
Comments
Ding Dong! Avon's Falling, er, Avon Calling

Tales from the Pyramid: Halloween and Hollow Schemes

Good evening, boils and ghouls! Hope you are having the time of your LIFE on Halloween because the terrifying content of these stories will make you want to DIE. We certainly got this out on the WITCHING HOUR for all you creepsters staying up late and turning off the porch light. Well kiddies, we've got some content for you. Katie is mysteriously GONE this week, so Summer Sanders, podcast advisor, guest hosts with Sasha, Mistress Host of the Dark, to tell you ALL about the TERRIFYING world of multi-level marketing. Lularoe? Aliens? Lubricant? It's all there. Turn off the lights and grab some headphones - and better get some sleeping pills for the inevitable nightmares you'll have tonight - these pyramids are haunted. The truth is out there, and SLMLMbutok has it. Listening to this after Halloween night? Just because Halloween is one night a year, doesn't mean the spooky and scary things go away! Pleasant screams. Produced by Sasha Zazzi IT and Technical Development provided by Podca...

90 min2018 NOV 1
Comments
Tales from the Pyramid: Halloween and Hollow Schemes

They've Got the Pyramid Schemes, but We've Got the Guillotines

Today Sasha and Katie get POLITICAL! We air our grivences about what's going on in Congress and the White House, HR 3409, and Trump's involvement with a couple MLMs. Listeners, we are all PIONEERS in this fairly new advocacy movement, and we need to RISE UP and stop this administration from allowing the FTC to relax any of its MLM or pyramid scheme laws. This is a very informative episode and WE NEED YOUR HELP in stopping this from happening. They got the pyramid schemes, but we got the guillotine. Off with their heads! Produced by Sasha Zazzi IT and Technical Development provided by PDaddy Advisory Members: Summer Sanders & Ashleigh Walls Our NEW website! Donate to our Patreon (we've got great rewards!) or buy some merch. BOOMER MERCH IS COMING, IF NOT ALREADY OUT BY THE TIME THIS EPISODE DROPS. This is our new hub - you can find all of our social media here, too: slmlmbutok.com Reach out to us: podcast@slmlmbutok.com Find us on social media: Facebook group - Sounds like MLM but ok...

116 min2018 OCT 21
Comments
They've Got the Pyramid Schemes, but We've Got the Guillotines
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