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Adversarial Learning

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Adversarial Learning

Adversarial Learning

@joelgrus + @akm

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@joelgrus and @akm talk about data, science, data science, Shingy, and whatever else they feel like

Latest Episodes

Adversarial Distancing, Episode 3: Two Conversations with Jowanza

About a month ago we recorded a podcast with Jowanza Joseph about engineering and COVID-19 and other mundane topics. While I (Joel) was procrastinating on editing it, a lot happened in the world. And then Jowanza wrote a blog post about his experiences with racism and how they've affected his life. Which made it feel really weird to just put out an episode with him that doesn't mention any of these issues. So the three of us went back into the (metaphorical) studio and recorded another episode mostly about his blog post, about racism, and about the state of the world. (As always, we are incapable of staying 100% on-topic, but we did pretty good.) These aren't necessarily easy topics to discuss, but I think we did a respectful job of it, and I hope you find it interesting and worthwhile. The original podcast episode follows the new one, so you get two episodes in one. Please listen to it.

91 MINJUN 16
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Adversarial Distancing, Episode 3: Two Conversations with Jowanza

Adversarial Distancing - Episode 2

Joel and Andrew break quarantine (metaphorically) to discuss treehouses, remote work, distance schooling, outschool.com, Joel's attempt to teach his daughter Python, old-school text adventures, socially-distanced eating, the Twitter UI, what happens to school in the fall, OKRs, and whether we should keep the economy closed or re-open it and kill people. Please listen to it.

51 MINMAY 17
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Adversarial Distancing - Episode 2

Adversarial Distancing - Episode 1

in which Joel and Andrew briefly break quarantine to talk about Covid-19, social distancing, and the data science grift

40 MINMAR 22
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Adversarial Distancing - Episode 1

The Cold Start Problem for Becoming a DJ

Our guest this week is Pardis Noorzad (@djpardis), former data science manager at Twitter and now Head of Data Science at Carbon Health. Our conversation spans a wide range of topics: the Tenderloin Carbon Health what Duran Duran has to do with Black History Month the "cold start problem" for becoming a DJ how long it takes to achieve domain expertise how many people there are in Canada how getting that first data science job is like DJ-ing loyalty the Go programming language the Hopper-Causey effect data science as quality control Please listen to it.

59 MIN2019 NOV 8
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The Cold Start Problem for Becoming a DJ

Churn! Churn! Churn!

Our guest this episode is Carl Gold (@carl24k), Chief Data Scientist at Zuora and author of the forthcoming book Fighting Churn with Data. Use the discount code podadvl19 to save some unspecified amount on it. Topics include * churn * writing a book * churn * running a subscription business * churn * domain expertise * p-hacking * churn * how Joel picks what song to use for the podcast intro * churn

69 MIN2019 OCT 30
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Churn! Churn! Churn!

Writing the Same Book Twice

On this episode, Andrew is joined by Joel Grus(@joelgrus), the author ofData Science from Scratch, whose second edition just came out. They discuss spreadsheets, writing a book, Python 3, type annotations, Jupyter notebooks, reproducibility, and what it's like to do standup comedy at a conference that has a code of conduct. Please listen to it.

49 MIN2019 MAY 24
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Writing the Same Book Twice

Never Insult a Pigeon Driving a Bus

Our guest this episode is data scientist Peadar Coyle. Topics include Brexit whether Europe is a Python continent or an R continent GDPR how data science is different in Europe than it is in the USA Joel's stock rant against "domain expertise" PyMC3 and Bayesian Analysis teaching online courses whether "primer" is pronounced "primer" or "primer" what Joel and Andrew are most excited about in data science Please listen to it.

68 MIN2019 MAR 12
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Never Insult a Pigeon Driving a Bus

Josh Wills

Adversarial Learning is back from its extended hiatus! Our guest is famous data scientist Josh Wills. We discuss why Josh is a famous data scientist, what it's like working at Slack, data science conferences, NLP's "imagenet moment", whether Joel should remove the MapReduce chapter from the 2nd edition of Data Science from Scratch, and which is the best Rush album. Please listen to it.

73 MIN2019 FEB 4
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Josh Wills

Episode 16: My Code of Ethics Will Forbid YAML

Adversarial Learning is back! In this long-delayed episode (thanks, technical difficulties) we are joined by data scientist Schaun Wheeler to discuss our favorite topic, data ethics. Highlights include: * Schaun's Medium post "An ethical code can’t be about ethics" * Do we need a "Hippocratic Oath" for data science * How to hire data scientists who won't steal people's kidneys * Why Joel has a Values Mug * The Manifesto for Data Practices * Is this all secretly a competency problem? * Skin in the Game * Are data ethics issues really just business ethics issues? Please listen to it! (More episodes coming soon!)

49 MIN2018 MAY 25
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Episode 16: My Code of Ethics Will Forbid YAML

Episode 15: Could You Rephrase That As An Ethical Question?

Our guest this week is data scientist for good Lisa Green. Topics of discussion include What is ethics Joel's previous life as a financial analyst and the ethical dilemmas therein whether there's anything incriminating in Joel's Yahoo history "identity theft" as a bullshit concept Google's corrupt bargain with the NHS what the medical code of ethics actually says polycentric ethics the difference between unethical and incompetent what good a code of ethics does when the "ethical" problems are emergent from the choices of many people that terrible article about the Seattle Nazi convention neuroticism the Joel test vgr's bad tweet Please listen to it.

64 MIN2017 OCT 12
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Episode 15: Could You Rephrase That As An Ethical Question?

Latest Episodes

Adversarial Distancing, Episode 3: Two Conversations with Jowanza

About a month ago we recorded a podcast with Jowanza Joseph about engineering and COVID-19 and other mundane topics. While I (Joel) was procrastinating on editing it, a lot happened in the world. And then Jowanza wrote a blog post about his experiences with racism and how they've affected his life. Which made it feel really weird to just put out an episode with him that doesn't mention any of these issues. So the three of us went back into the (metaphorical) studio and recorded another episode mostly about his blog post, about racism, and about the state of the world. (As always, we are incapable of staying 100% on-topic, but we did pretty good.) These aren't necessarily easy topics to discuss, but I think we did a respectful job of it, and I hope you find it interesting and worthwhile. The original podcast episode follows the new one, so you get two episodes in one. Please listen to it.

91 MINJUN 16
Comments
Adversarial Distancing, Episode 3: Two Conversations with Jowanza

Adversarial Distancing - Episode 2

Joel and Andrew break quarantine (metaphorically) to discuss treehouses, remote work, distance schooling, outschool.com, Joel's attempt to teach his daughter Python, old-school text adventures, socially-distanced eating, the Twitter UI, what happens to school in the fall, OKRs, and whether we should keep the economy closed or re-open it and kill people. Please listen to it.

51 MINMAY 17
Comments
Adversarial Distancing - Episode 2

Adversarial Distancing - Episode 1

in which Joel and Andrew briefly break quarantine to talk about Covid-19, social distancing, and the data science grift

40 MINMAR 22
Comments
Adversarial Distancing - Episode 1

The Cold Start Problem for Becoming a DJ

Our guest this week is Pardis Noorzad (@djpardis), former data science manager at Twitter and now Head of Data Science at Carbon Health. Our conversation spans a wide range of topics: the Tenderloin Carbon Health what Duran Duran has to do with Black History Month the "cold start problem" for becoming a DJ how long it takes to achieve domain expertise how many people there are in Canada how getting that first data science job is like DJ-ing loyalty the Go programming language the Hopper-Causey effect data science as quality control Please listen to it.

59 MIN2019 NOV 8
Comments
The Cold Start Problem for Becoming a DJ

Churn! Churn! Churn!

Our guest this episode is Carl Gold (@carl24k), Chief Data Scientist at Zuora and author of the forthcoming book Fighting Churn with Data. Use the discount code podadvl19 to save some unspecified amount on it. Topics include * churn * writing a book * churn * running a subscription business * churn * domain expertise * p-hacking * churn * how Joel picks what song to use for the podcast intro * churn

69 MIN2019 OCT 30
Comments
Churn! Churn! Churn!

Writing the Same Book Twice

On this episode, Andrew is joined by Joel Grus(@joelgrus), the author ofData Science from Scratch, whose second edition just came out. They discuss spreadsheets, writing a book, Python 3, type annotations, Jupyter notebooks, reproducibility, and what it's like to do standup comedy at a conference that has a code of conduct. Please listen to it.

49 MIN2019 MAY 24
Comments
Writing the Same Book Twice

Never Insult a Pigeon Driving a Bus

Our guest this episode is data scientist Peadar Coyle. Topics include Brexit whether Europe is a Python continent or an R continent GDPR how data science is different in Europe than it is in the USA Joel's stock rant against "domain expertise" PyMC3 and Bayesian Analysis teaching online courses whether "primer" is pronounced "primer" or "primer" what Joel and Andrew are most excited about in data science Please listen to it.

68 MIN2019 MAR 12
Comments
Never Insult a Pigeon Driving a Bus

Josh Wills

Adversarial Learning is back from its extended hiatus! Our guest is famous data scientist Josh Wills. We discuss why Josh is a famous data scientist, what it's like working at Slack, data science conferences, NLP's "imagenet moment", whether Joel should remove the MapReduce chapter from the 2nd edition of Data Science from Scratch, and which is the best Rush album. Please listen to it.

73 MIN2019 FEB 4
Comments
Josh Wills

Episode 16: My Code of Ethics Will Forbid YAML

Adversarial Learning is back! In this long-delayed episode (thanks, technical difficulties) we are joined by data scientist Schaun Wheeler to discuss our favorite topic, data ethics. Highlights include: * Schaun's Medium post "An ethical code can’t be about ethics" * Do we need a "Hippocratic Oath" for data science * How to hire data scientists who won't steal people's kidneys * Why Joel has a Values Mug * The Manifesto for Data Practices * Is this all secretly a competency problem? * Skin in the Game * Are data ethics issues really just business ethics issues? Please listen to it! (More episodes coming soon!)

49 MIN2018 MAY 25
Comments
Episode 16: My Code of Ethics Will Forbid YAML

Episode 15: Could You Rephrase That As An Ethical Question?

Our guest this week is data scientist for good Lisa Green. Topics of discussion include What is ethics Joel's previous life as a financial analyst and the ethical dilemmas therein whether there's anything incriminating in Joel's Yahoo history "identity theft" as a bullshit concept Google's corrupt bargain with the NHS what the medical code of ethics actually says polycentric ethics the difference between unethical and incompetent what good a code of ethics does when the "ethical" problems are emergent from the choices of many people that terrible article about the Seattle Nazi convention neuroticism the Joel test vgr's bad tweet Please listen to it.

64 MIN2017 OCT 12
Comments
Episode 15: Could You Rephrase That As An Ethical Question?
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