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The Cyberlaw Podcast

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The Cyberlaw Podcast

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A weekly podcast offering an opinionated roundup of the latest events in technology, security, privacy, and government and an in-depth interview of technology and policy newsmakers. Host Stewart Baker and regulars share their views  - and not those of the firm.

Latest Episodes

Episode 300: Wiretapping the Pope

In our 300th episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Stewart Baker interviews Jonathan Reiber (@jonathanreiber) regarding his paper for the Berkeley Center for Long-Term Cybersecurity, titled, “A Public, Private War: How the US Government and US Technology Sector can Build Trust and Better Prepare for Conflict in the Digital Age.” Stewart is also joined by Paul Rosenzweig (@rosenzweigP) and Nick Weaver (@ncweaver) to discuss: Classified documents detail the history of the CIA’s ownership of Crypto AG.; Four Chinese military members were indicted over the Equifax breach.; An Ohio man was arrest for running a Bitcoin mixing and laundering service.; Amazon is trying to stall the Microsoft-Pentagon cloud contract.; The Department of Justice is holding its Section 230 workshops this week.; The Department of Homeland Security unveiled the #Protect2020 strategy.; The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority experienced some irony at its key signing ceremony.; And more! The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not reflect the opinions of the firm.

59 MIN4 d ago
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Episode 300: Wiretapping the Pope

Episode 299: The European Court of Justice is About to Kick Off a Massive US-EU Trade War

In our 299th episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Stewart Baker interviews Peter Swire (@PeterSwire) and Maury Shenk regarding recent developments in European cybersecurity and privacy law. Stewart is also joined by David Kris (@DavidKris), Nate Jones (@n8jones81), and Matthew Heiman to discuss: Alleged Vault7 leaker Joshua Schulte had his first day in court.; The Department of Defense released its final cybersecurity plan for contractors, but questions remain concerning the audit process.; EKANS is a new ransomware targeting industrial control systems.; A flawed caucus app sowed chaos in Iowa.; The Federal Communications Commission could sue telephone service providers for selling phone location data.; The Maze ransomware has ravaged law firms in recent weeks.; Google and Facebook shied away from an undersea cable to China.; The Senate Intelligence Committee released the third volume of its Russian interference report.; And more! The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not reflect the opinions of the firm.

67 MIN1 w ago
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Episode 299: The European Court of Justice is About to Kick Off a Massive US-EU Trade War

Episode 298: Bill Barr as Bogeyman

In our 298th episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Stewart Baker is joined by Gus Hurwitz (@gushurwitz), Klon Kitchen (@klonkitchen), and Nick Weaver (@ncweaver) to discuss: Facebook will pay $550 million to settle an Illinois facial recognition class action.; The chairman of Harvard’s chemistry department was charged for allegedly hiding his ties to China.; Senators Graham and Blumenthal proposed a Section 230 reform that’s actually an attempt to ban encryption.; Apple banned an Iranian ride-hailing app that was masquerading as a radio station app.; The Justice Department has requested restraining orders to stop telecom companies from facilitating robocalls, the FTC has put 19 VoIP providers on notice for facilitating robocalls, and the FCC is proposing a $13 million fine against a racist robocaller.; Do Ring camera recordings constitute illegal wiretaps under state all-party consent laws?; The UK government has plans for an IoT law.; Maryland wants to make ransomware illegal and hinder security researchers.; The United Nations suffered a massive breach.; And more! The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not reflect the opinions of the firm.

48 MIN2 w ago
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Episode 298: Bill Barr as Bogeyman

Episode 297: Did the Saudi Crown Prince hack Jeff Bezos's phone?

In our 297th episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Stewart Baker interviews Alex Stamos (@alexstamos) and UN Special Rapporteur David Kaye (@davidakaye) regarding the forensic analysis of the alleged Jeff Bezos phone hack. Stewart is also joined by Nate Jones (@n8jones81) and Nick Weaver (@ncweaver) to discuss: The new trade deal may widen the US-China technology divide.; Voters in the Greater Seattle-area will get to vote by smartphone.; The FISA Court order seems to invalidate two of the four Carter Page warrants.; Senator Wyden and colleagues want to reform FISA before it is renewed.; Brazil has charged journalist Glenn Greenwald with “cybercrimes.”; Google’s briefly-lived search redesign blurred the lines between ads and organic searches.; A subsidiary of Avast has been selling users’ browsing data, likely without informed consent. The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not reflect the opinions of the firm.

63 MIN3 w ago
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Episode 297: Did the Saudi Crown Prince hack Jeff Bezos's phone?

Episode 296: Is CCPA short for "Law of Unintended Consequences"?

In our 296th episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Stewart Baker interviews Bruce Schneier (@schneierblog) about his latest op-ed on facial recognition. is joined by Michael Vatis, Matthew Heiman, Nick Weaver (@ncweaver), and Mark MacCarthy (@Mark_MacCarthy) to discuss: The CCPA and its implications.; Your dating app may be spreading your information without your knowledge.; More on artificial intelligence in the hiring process.; A security firm claims the Russian GRU has phished its way into Burisma Holdings.; Another Italian surveillance technology firm got into some trouble.; Microsoft patched a major cryptography vulnerability after notification from the NSA.; Small Tech is asking Congress for protection from Big Tech.; David Kris issued his FISA Court amicus brief on the FBI Horowitz report.; Certain institutions may be able to carve out exemptions from parts of the GDPR.; And more! The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not reflect the opinions of the ...

60 MINJAN 21
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Episode 296: Is CCPA short for "Law of Unintended Consequences"?

Episode 295: The line between deepfake legislation and deeply fake legislation

In our 295th episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Stewart Baker is joined by Maury Shenk, David Kris (@DavidKris), and Nate Jones (@n8jones81) to discuss: India has proposed liability for end-to-end encryption.; Apple’s phone encryption is back in the spotlight.; Federal legislation on deepfakes was signed into law.; The State Department has been directed by Congress to report on its cybertools licensing processes.; Rules on Defense Department contractors using Chinese technology are coming into effect.; There is a new very narrow export control rule on artificial intelligence.; Christmas came early for the Justice Department, as a judge ruled Edward Snowden could not collect royalties on his book.; A European Court of Justice advocate general issued an opinion on EU-US data transfers.; The Second Circuit issued an opinion on FISA Section 702 and Fourth Amendment issues.; Italy has imposed a French-style revenue tax on Internet companies.; Russia reportedly “disconnected” itself from the global Internet.; And more! The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not reflect the opinions of the firm.

49 MINJAN 13
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Episode 295: The line between deepfake legislation and deeply fake legislation

Episode 294: Examining the DOJ Inspector General's FBI-FISA Report

In our 294th episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Stewart Baker is joined by Bobby Chesney (@BobbyChesney), David Kris (@DavidKris), and Bob Litt for a discussion of the recent Department of Justice Inspector General report and the implications for the Department of Justice, the FBI, and the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not reflect the opinions of the firm.

59 MIN2019 DEC 18
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Episode 294: Examining the DOJ Inspector General's FBI-FISA Report

Episode 293: Around the World in 80 Hacks

In our 293rd episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Maury Shenk takes over for Stewart Baker. Maury is joined by Nate Jones (@n8jones81) and Nick Weaver (@ncweaver) to discuss: China has ordered government offices to purge foreign software and equipment.; Arm China will develop chips using “state-approved” cryptography.; Plundervolt: Yet another way hackers can tinker with Intel’s chips.; Apple used the DMCA to take down a tweet that published an iPhone encryption key.; The 11th Circuit held that an insurer must cover a loss suffered through email-based theft.; Gizmodo mapped the “sprawl” of Ring cameras.; Hackers are breaking into Ring cameras and harassing their owners.; The FTC could issue an injunction against Facebook to block their app integration plans.; Turkey will impose a whopping 7.5% digital services tax.; Iran claims its banks were hit by a “very big,” “state-sponsored” cyberattack.; More on DarkMatter: White House veterans worked to stand up the UAE’s secret surveillance capability. The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not reflect the opinions of the firm.

33 MIN2019 DEC 16
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Episode 293: Around the World in 80 Hacks

Episode 292: Debating FISA 215 after Pensacola

In our 292nd episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Stewart Baker is joined by Paul Rosenzweig (@RosenzweigP), Matthew Heiman, and Nick Weaver (@ncweaver) to discuss: China used its “Great Cannon” against a popular Hong Kong Web forum.; Microsoft appears to be planning an expansion of GitHub into China, despite China attacking GitHub in the past.; TikTok faces two class action suits, one in California and one in Illinois, over alleged data abuses.; The Department of Homeland Security considered extending airport facial scans to US citizens and immediately backtracked under public pressure.; The United States Trade Representative concluded its investigation into France’s digital tax, Spain is looking to implement its own “Google tax,” and Treasury Secretary Mnuchin has “serious concerns” about the OECD’s digital tax plan.; The Department of Justice indicted two Russians affiliated with “Evil Corp” and the Bugat/Dridex malware. The Treasury also sanctioned them for good measure.; Does the attack on Pensacola mean we ought to rethink the Section 215 metadata program?; Amazon faces yet another third-party product liability suit, this time in Tennessee.; And more! The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not reflect the opinions of the firm.

43 MIN2019 DEC 9
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Episode 292: Debating FISA 215 after Pensacola

Episode 291: Ethical Algorithms with Michael Kearns and Aaron Roth

In our 291st episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Stewart Baker interviews Michael Kearns and Aaron Roth, professors in Computer and Information Science at the University of Pennsylvania. They are the co-authors of the new book, "The Ethical Algorithm: The Science of Socially Aware Algorithm Design." The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not reflect the opinions of the firm.

47 MIN2019 DEC 5
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Episode 291: Ethical Algorithms with Michael Kearns and Aaron Roth

Latest Episodes

Episode 300: Wiretapping the Pope

In our 300th episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Stewart Baker interviews Jonathan Reiber (@jonathanreiber) regarding his paper for the Berkeley Center for Long-Term Cybersecurity, titled, “A Public, Private War: How the US Government and US Technology Sector can Build Trust and Better Prepare for Conflict in the Digital Age.” Stewart is also joined by Paul Rosenzweig (@rosenzweigP) and Nick Weaver (@ncweaver) to discuss: Classified documents detail the history of the CIA’s ownership of Crypto AG.; Four Chinese military members were indicted over the Equifax breach.; An Ohio man was arrest for running a Bitcoin mixing and laundering service.; Amazon is trying to stall the Microsoft-Pentagon cloud contract.; The Department of Justice is holding its Section 230 workshops this week.; The Department of Homeland Security unveiled the #Protect2020 strategy.; The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority experienced some irony at its key signing ceremony.; And more! The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not reflect the opinions of the firm.

59 MIN4 d ago
Comments
Episode 300: Wiretapping the Pope

Episode 299: The European Court of Justice is About to Kick Off a Massive US-EU Trade War

In our 299th episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Stewart Baker interviews Peter Swire (@PeterSwire) and Maury Shenk regarding recent developments in European cybersecurity and privacy law. Stewart is also joined by David Kris (@DavidKris), Nate Jones (@n8jones81), and Matthew Heiman to discuss: Alleged Vault7 leaker Joshua Schulte had his first day in court.; The Department of Defense released its final cybersecurity plan for contractors, but questions remain concerning the audit process.; EKANS is a new ransomware targeting industrial control systems.; A flawed caucus app sowed chaos in Iowa.; The Federal Communications Commission could sue telephone service providers for selling phone location data.; The Maze ransomware has ravaged law firms in recent weeks.; Google and Facebook shied away from an undersea cable to China.; The Senate Intelligence Committee released the third volume of its Russian interference report.; And more! The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not reflect the opinions of the firm.

67 MIN1 w ago
Comments
Episode 299: The European Court of Justice is About to Kick Off a Massive US-EU Trade War

Episode 298: Bill Barr as Bogeyman

In our 298th episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Stewart Baker is joined by Gus Hurwitz (@gushurwitz), Klon Kitchen (@klonkitchen), and Nick Weaver (@ncweaver) to discuss: Facebook will pay $550 million to settle an Illinois facial recognition class action.; The chairman of Harvard’s chemistry department was charged for allegedly hiding his ties to China.; Senators Graham and Blumenthal proposed a Section 230 reform that’s actually an attempt to ban encryption.; Apple banned an Iranian ride-hailing app that was masquerading as a radio station app.; The Justice Department has requested restraining orders to stop telecom companies from facilitating robocalls, the FTC has put 19 VoIP providers on notice for facilitating robocalls, and the FCC is proposing a $13 million fine against a racist robocaller.; Do Ring camera recordings constitute illegal wiretaps under state all-party consent laws?; The UK government has plans for an IoT law.; Maryland wants to make ransomware illegal and hinder security researchers.; The United Nations suffered a massive breach.; And more! The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not reflect the opinions of the firm.

48 MIN2 w ago
Comments
Episode 298: Bill Barr as Bogeyman

Episode 297: Did the Saudi Crown Prince hack Jeff Bezos's phone?

In our 297th episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Stewart Baker interviews Alex Stamos (@alexstamos) and UN Special Rapporteur David Kaye (@davidakaye) regarding the forensic analysis of the alleged Jeff Bezos phone hack. Stewart is also joined by Nate Jones (@n8jones81) and Nick Weaver (@ncweaver) to discuss: The new trade deal may widen the US-China technology divide.; Voters in the Greater Seattle-area will get to vote by smartphone.; The FISA Court order seems to invalidate two of the four Carter Page warrants.; Senator Wyden and colleagues want to reform FISA before it is renewed.; Brazil has charged journalist Glenn Greenwald with “cybercrimes.”; Google’s briefly-lived search redesign blurred the lines between ads and organic searches.; A subsidiary of Avast has been selling users’ browsing data, likely without informed consent. The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not reflect the opinions of the firm.

63 MIN3 w ago
Comments
Episode 297: Did the Saudi Crown Prince hack Jeff Bezos's phone?

Episode 296: Is CCPA short for "Law of Unintended Consequences"?

In our 296th episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Stewart Baker interviews Bruce Schneier (@schneierblog) about his latest op-ed on facial recognition. is joined by Michael Vatis, Matthew Heiman, Nick Weaver (@ncweaver), and Mark MacCarthy (@Mark_MacCarthy) to discuss: The CCPA and its implications.; Your dating app may be spreading your information without your knowledge.; More on artificial intelligence in the hiring process.; A security firm claims the Russian GRU has phished its way into Burisma Holdings.; Another Italian surveillance technology firm got into some trouble.; Microsoft patched a major cryptography vulnerability after notification from the NSA.; Small Tech is asking Congress for protection from Big Tech.; David Kris issued his FISA Court amicus brief on the FBI Horowitz report.; Certain institutions may be able to carve out exemptions from parts of the GDPR.; And more! The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not reflect the opinions of the ...

60 MINJAN 21
Comments
Episode 296: Is CCPA short for "Law of Unintended Consequences"?

Episode 295: The line between deepfake legislation and deeply fake legislation

In our 295th episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Stewart Baker is joined by Maury Shenk, David Kris (@DavidKris), and Nate Jones (@n8jones81) to discuss: India has proposed liability for end-to-end encryption.; Apple’s phone encryption is back in the spotlight.; Federal legislation on deepfakes was signed into law.; The State Department has been directed by Congress to report on its cybertools licensing processes.; Rules on Defense Department contractors using Chinese technology are coming into effect.; There is a new very narrow export control rule on artificial intelligence.; Christmas came early for the Justice Department, as a judge ruled Edward Snowden could not collect royalties on his book.; A European Court of Justice advocate general issued an opinion on EU-US data transfers.; The Second Circuit issued an opinion on FISA Section 702 and Fourth Amendment issues.; Italy has imposed a French-style revenue tax on Internet companies.; Russia reportedly “disconnected” itself from the global Internet.; And more! The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not reflect the opinions of the firm.

49 MINJAN 13
Comments
Episode 295: The line between deepfake legislation and deeply fake legislation

Episode 294: Examining the DOJ Inspector General's FBI-FISA Report

In our 294th episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Stewart Baker is joined by Bobby Chesney (@BobbyChesney), David Kris (@DavidKris), and Bob Litt for a discussion of the recent Department of Justice Inspector General report and the implications for the Department of Justice, the FBI, and the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not reflect the opinions of the firm.

59 MIN2019 DEC 18
Comments
Episode 294: Examining the DOJ Inspector General's FBI-FISA Report

Episode 293: Around the World in 80 Hacks

In our 293rd episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Maury Shenk takes over for Stewart Baker. Maury is joined by Nate Jones (@n8jones81) and Nick Weaver (@ncweaver) to discuss: China has ordered government offices to purge foreign software and equipment.; Arm China will develop chips using “state-approved” cryptography.; Plundervolt: Yet another way hackers can tinker with Intel’s chips.; Apple used the DMCA to take down a tweet that published an iPhone encryption key.; The 11th Circuit held that an insurer must cover a loss suffered through email-based theft.; Gizmodo mapped the “sprawl” of Ring cameras.; Hackers are breaking into Ring cameras and harassing their owners.; The FTC could issue an injunction against Facebook to block their app integration plans.; Turkey will impose a whopping 7.5% digital services tax.; Iran claims its banks were hit by a “very big,” “state-sponsored” cyberattack.; More on DarkMatter: White House veterans worked to stand up the UAE’s secret surveillance capability. The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not reflect the opinions of the firm.

33 MIN2019 DEC 16
Comments
Episode 293: Around the World in 80 Hacks

Episode 292: Debating FISA 215 after Pensacola

In our 292nd episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Stewart Baker is joined by Paul Rosenzweig (@RosenzweigP), Matthew Heiman, and Nick Weaver (@ncweaver) to discuss: China used its “Great Cannon” against a popular Hong Kong Web forum.; Microsoft appears to be planning an expansion of GitHub into China, despite China attacking GitHub in the past.; TikTok faces two class action suits, one in California and one in Illinois, over alleged data abuses.; The Department of Homeland Security considered extending airport facial scans to US citizens and immediately backtracked under public pressure.; The United States Trade Representative concluded its investigation into France’s digital tax, Spain is looking to implement its own “Google tax,” and Treasury Secretary Mnuchin has “serious concerns” about the OECD’s digital tax plan.; The Department of Justice indicted two Russians affiliated with “Evil Corp” and the Bugat/Dridex malware. The Treasury also sanctioned them for good measure.; Does the attack on Pensacola mean we ought to rethink the Section 215 metadata program?; Amazon faces yet another third-party product liability suit, this time in Tennessee.; And more! The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not reflect the opinions of the firm.

43 MIN2019 DEC 9
Comments
Episode 292: Debating FISA 215 after Pensacola

Episode 291: Ethical Algorithms with Michael Kearns and Aaron Roth

In our 291st episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Stewart Baker interviews Michael Kearns and Aaron Roth, professors in Computer and Information Science at the University of Pennsylvania. They are the co-authors of the new book, "The Ethical Algorithm: The Science of Socially Aware Algorithm Design." The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not reflect the opinions of the firm.

47 MIN2019 DEC 5
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Episode 291: Ethical Algorithms with Michael Kearns and Aaron Roth
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