In this episode, we talk to Jon Walker about similarities and differences between relaxation and mindfulness as well as how expectations can interfere with mindfulness practice. He also describes practices that can improve our coping in a practical way in daily life, and reflects on some of the challenges of a driven and productivity-focused life. Jon Walker is a retired physician and professor of medicine and is now a teacher of mindfulness and self-compassion. He completed the two-year Mindfulness Meditation Teacher Certification Program with Tara Brach and Jack Kornfield through the Center for Greater Good at University of California, Berkeley. He has also been trained in Mind Body Medicine for physicians, Mindfulness Facilitation, Mindfulness-Based Stress Reduction, & Mindfulness-Based Chronic Pain Management.