If you've ever listened to this podcast before it will come as no surprise to you that we end up talking about owls for like... half of it. But isn't that what summer is all about? It is now. Join us in Brett and Dana's Airbnb living room won't you? See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.