Welcome to Crawlspace. In this episode, Tim Pilleri & Lance Reenstierna have an insightful conversation with Naama Kates (of the Incel Podcast) and Lee Mellor (of the Murder Was The Case Podcast) about their new show, Citizen Detective. For more information on Naama, Lee and their show, check out the links below. Enjoy! Come see us on tour with Patrick Hinds and Maggie Freleng! https://www.truecrimeobsessed.com/see-us-live Check out our Crawlspace subscription service where we have a bonus show and ad-free episodes! https://crawlspace.supportingcast.fm/ Check out our Missing subscription service where we have a bonus show and ad-free episodes! https://missing.supportingcast.fm/ Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/crawlspacepod Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Crawlspacepodcast Follow us on Instagram: https://www.Instagram.com/Crawlspacepodcast Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@crawlspacepodcast This episode is sponsored by Best Fiends! We love Best Fiends and when you play you get $5 worth of in-game rewards when you reach Level 5! https://bestfiends.com/ Listen to Citizen Detective on: Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/citizen-detective/id1451873206 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ljtgkDEtaZQhOvzrqXzly?si=967580e0276e4ace Follow Citizen Detective: Twitter: https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast Insta: https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en Listen to Naama's show Incel: Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/incel/id1469915971 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/09oa7IaSpWHgzysJNoAq0N?si=3d2c88d195cf4a43 Listen to Lee Mellor's show Murder Was The Case: Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/murder-was-the-case/id1327969221 Spotify; https://open.spotify.com/show/2vfkBibiHPox5DvNjAEzZe?si=cd9896e80d6b4890 Follow Naama on Twitter: https://twitter.com/naamakates Follow Lee Mellor on Twitter: https://twitter.com/murderwtcase The music for Crawlspace was produced by David Flajnik. Listen to his music here: https://www.pond5.com/artist/bigdsound Check out our entire network at http://crawlspace-media.com/ Join the Crawlspace Discussion Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/talkcrawlspace/ Crawlspace Media is part of the Glassbox Media Network. Check them out here: https://glassboxmedia.com/ Go to https://smile.amazon.com/ to connect your existing Amazon account to donate to PI's For the Missing. Follow Private Investigations For the Missing https://investigationsforthemissing.org/ http://piftm.org/donate https://twitter.com/PIFortheMissing https://www.facebook.com/PIFortheMissing/ https://www.instagram.com/investigationsforthemissing/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices