This is just a preview of our Patreon exclusive Bonus episode, you can hear the episode in its entirety by becoming a member at: www.patreon.com/indoctrination Joseph Kelly is a cult interventionist and recipient of the lifetime achievement award from the International Cultic Studies Association(ICSA) Along with Pat Ryan, He is the co-founder of Intervention 101, where he has worked as a thought reform consultant and exit counselor since 1989. He spent 14 years in two different eastern meditation groups; Transcendental Meditation and The International Society of Divine Love. Joseph is a co-author of “Ethical Standards for Thought Reform Consultants,” published in ICSA’s Cultic Studies Journal, Mr. Kelly has also facilitated ICSA workshops for ex-members and families and has lectured extensively on cult-related topics. Joseph returns to the show to share some of his insights after 30 years of cult intervention work, explaining how his approach includes close consultation with qual...