I speak to cartographic historian Matthew Edney about his brand-new book "Cartography: the Ideal and its History" as well as the History of Cartography Project. This is a bumper episode - please enjoy! Prof. Edney's blog: https://www.mappingasprocess.net/ History of Cartography Project: https://geography.wisc.edu/histcart/ Nico Buitendag: https://linktr.ee/undisciplined