After Holly's incredible conversation with Boden's founder Johnnie, Holly reflects on the highs and lows she has faced when it comes to trusting people in business — along with her top recruitment tips — all in less than 10 minutes! When you’re a business founder, hiring people is possibly one of the hardest arts to master isn’t it? They might look like the world’s best on their CV, but something might not sit quite right in your tummy – and that’s fine, but understanding the importance of building the right team, really could make or break your business. This week, Holly shares all when it comes to who you surround yourself with, and explains why it can quite literally be life changing. Having experienced dishonesty in the workplace that almost left her with nothing, Holly opens up about her own story and the mottos she's learnt along the way, to help with building a reliable support network. Holly’s lightbulb moment comes from when Johnnie reveals the unimaginable turmoil he experienced himself when a member of his team carried out the ultimate betrayal. Since then, Johnnie holds trust as the very top quality he looks for in his employees – and here he explains why. You can listen to Johnnie Boden’s full episode here. Enjoying listening to these unfiltered chats? Subscribe to Holly’s weekly newsletters on our website, where she shares small business inspiration of all kinds, exclusive nuggets of wisdom from her and her guests, plus offers, creative ideas, and topical, 'ungoogleable' business advice.