Bloomberg Opinion columnist Barry Ritholtz speaks with Mat Ishbia, the chief executive officer of United Wholesale Mortgage, which is the top wholesale lender and No. 2 overall mortgage lender in the United States. The 9,000-person firm went public in the biggest SPAC ever. Ishbia is also the author of “Running the Corporate Offense: Lessons in Effective Leadership from the Bench to the Board Room.” Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com