In this week’s episode, host Daniel Raimi talks with Deborah Gordon, a senior principal in the Climate Intelligence Program at RMI and a senior fellow at the Watson Institute for International and Public Affairs at Brown University. They discuss Gordon’s new book, No Standard Oil, which elucidates the wide variety of different kinds of crude oils and natural gases and why the differences among those various types matter for climate policy. Gordon and Raimi also talk about the reasons that data transparency and precisely targeted policies are crucial for the evolution of the oil and gas industry in an era of climate change. References and recommendations: “No Standard Oil” by Deborah Gordon; https://www.nostandardoil.com/ Oil Climate Index plus Gas at RMI; https://ociplus.rmi.org/ “Project Escape: Lessons for an Unscripted Life” by Lucinda Jackson; https://lucindajackson.com/project-escape/ “Licorice Pizza” movie; https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11271038/