TVC 583.2: Phil Rosenzweig, author of Reginald Rose and the Journey of 12 Angry Men, and Ed discuss the interesting relationship The Defenders and Perry Mason, including how both were water cooler-type shows, albeit for completely different reasons. Phil’s book includes several chapters that discuss the back story of The Defenders, including the toll that the series took on series creator Reginald Rose’s personal life. Want to advertise/sponsor our show? TV Confidential has partnered with AdvertiseCast to handle advertising/sponsorship requests for the podcast edition of our program. They’re great to work with and will help you advertise on our show. Please email sales@advertisecast.com or click the link below to get started: https://www.advertisecast.com/TVConfidentialAradiotalkshowabout Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices