Rebecca van Laer’s writing appears in TriQuarterly Review, joyland, Columbia journal, the Florida review, Salamander, Hobart, mokeybicycle, electric literature and elsewhere. She holds a PhD in English from Brown University. Shannon McLeod is the author of the essay chapbookPathetic from Etchings Press, and her writings have appeared in Tin House, Prairie Schooner, Hobart, and Smokelong Quarterly. She lives in Virginia where she teaches high school English. Rebecca and Shannon join me to discuss their debut novellas,How to Adjust to the DarkandWhimsy, both out with Long Day Press. Books Recommended in this episode: How to Adjust to the DarkandWhimsy Rebecca Recommends: Nate Lippens,My Dead Book Naomi Washer,Subjects We Left Out Shannon Recommends: Chloe Caldwell,Women Chantel V. Johnson,Post-Traumatic Ursula Villarreal-Moura,Math for the Self-Crippling Chris Holmesis Chair of Literatures in English and Associate Professor at Ithaca College. He writes criticism on contemporary globa...