Daveed Gartenstein-Ross and Madison Urban discuss their paper "Utopia or Oblivion? An Examination of War Games & Futurism - How Games Can Contribute & Best Practices for Doing So." The interview today was conducted byChelsea Daymon, and the show is produced by Chelsea Daymon andSina Kashefipour. If you have enjoyed listening to The Loopcast please consider making a donation to the show through ourPatreon. We greatly appreciate it.