Conversation with Lucija Ivšić aka Živa, Croatia-born Melbourne-based musician and Sensilab (Monash University) researcher. You can find her on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/_xziva/ This conversation was aired on Eastside Radio 89.7FM on 4 July 2022, as part of 'Arts Monday: Sympoiesis'. Sympoiesis radio show is produced on the Gadigal land of the Eora nation, traditional custodians of this land. We pay our respect and gratitude to the elders past, present, and yet to come. Facebook: www.facebook.com/sympoiesisradioshow Instagram: www.instagram.com/sympoiesis_radio_show PRESENTER/INTERVIEWER: Ira Ferris (www.instagram.com/artemisprojects) MUSIC: #1 Apex Twin, Alberto Balsalm (excerpt) #2 Puncke, Chk Chk #3 ŽIVA, Power #4 ŽIVA, Dualism #5 Apex Twin, Alberto Balsalm (excerpt)